Garen+Yummi bot unkillable - HOTFIX ASAP
Seriously? Wtf is this Riot.
Seriously? Wtf is this Riot.
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Good for him Useless
On hit build?
This is still a thing? I thought Garen was nerfed to oblivion because of this.
Maybe if riot allowed stuff other than marksman+support to be viable bot, then Garen+Yuumi wouldn't be that much of a problem.
Now if a duo bot counters specifically a Marksman+Support pairing it's deemed "OP" and get's the nerf bat instantly.
If it was a more diverse bot meta like IDK Double assassins or double bruisers or Bruiser+MAge then Garen Yuumi would face a much harder time both farming and killing.
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
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its like the last game i played enemy picked yasou + alistar bot lane well instead of going a ranged adc that would get punished by this badly. my "bot laner" went kayle and i went sona, i rushed ardent censor and we legit smashed that lane so hard
people cry about enforcing metas, then when people try to expand it and change it people cry, then people cry why is it always the same 20ish champs every game
ffs
It is indeed a vicious circle.
Now, I really love spicy picks so I might be biased, but I really dislike how Marksmen have such a tight grip on the bot role in every meta. Like, in every other lane, multiple champion classes are always equally strong/popular. I don't see why such a specific class gets to be so dominant in EVERY META for 10 years now.
well that is what i find funny about people crying about this meta that meta
i reply it has been an ADC meta since season 2 and then i get downvoted into hell.
every game no matter what ( 95% ish) is at least two adcs/marksmen in a game.
the most by any character type
how was season 1 any different?
I think Riot are just incapable of creating reliable sustain DPS champions that are not marksmen.
This is proven IMO by the state of Cassio Azir and Ryze, that are always either trash or UNGODLY STRONG. I think these 3 are champions that should have been designed to fill the bot role and not midlaner's, but riot never realised this.
beta into season 1 was alot of weird random stuff.
adcs solo mid , bruiser/support bot APC top, support junglers
they didnt have a set meta it was kinda random as the high elo/pros figured out the best way to split and use resources on the map hence the meta we have with solo top, jng , solo mid , duo bot.
this came about due to the champ types , power curves/spikes etc
such as mid lane is the quickest lane to get to from base, you can get to both side lanes, so alot of roamers champs that could push waves and typically mid lane lvls the fastest so champs who hit earlier power spikes could take advantage of other lanes such as ap carries typically rushed into heavy ap by lvl 6 while most enemies on map put little to no gold into getting mr. or assassins hitting lvl 6 earlier then rest of map and roaming to take advantage of power spike to push lead and get fed.
bot lane was adcs cuz they typically need 2-3 items to come on line /mid game power spikes into late game ( hyper carries ) and a support to funnel them all the gold and resources to allow them to get their items to hit power spikes.
and then top lane became what champ could effectively stomp lane or sustain 1 vs 2 when there was the bot lane swap meta. in pro play bot lane would swap to push turret fast. so the top laner had to be able to scale with limited gold/items and be effective in sustaining that situation. part of why renekton was such a popular pick in pro play for a while in previous seasons.
and typically your jungle or top laner pick would be used to round out a team comp ( pro play) for either the tank/engage or whatever was needed after the mid/adc was priority
slowly the game as adapted from this and we see more lane /match up diversity but every time this happens the player base who dont know how to adapt and adjust cry over it, such as the rant in this post
idk about garen yuumi bot but the toxic combo ive ran into was a jinx veig bot veig had the damage building constantly and jinx with the speed
Yummi is just broken with some champs
More bad design form RIot
next time something happens like that get voli blitz bot combo or blitz pyke combo and constant pull under tower i would say blitz with thresh or naut but those arent really instant pulls towards u and since naut meets halfway is looking to take decent damage
At the end of the day, you're complaining about GAREN.
After 10 years this hapless champion finally performs one niche pick decently; let it go.