Honestly, I think abyssal scepter is a better second MR item on Mundo than Banshees Veil

HateDaddy··2 votes·295 views

Keep in mind, it's not very often you'll find yourself itemizing two MR items on mundo since you're typically stacking HP and armor to tank adcs indefinitely. But in scenarios where two mr items are an absolute must (like Cass or Ryze), I honestly find abyssal to be better overall.

For starters, it's only 5 less MR than banshees. Typically, a mundo build is going to be Tabi, Sunfire, Thornmail, Warmogs, Spirit Visage and Randuins against a team that you feel like the HP is sufficient enough at dealing with the enemy AP. But when you want that extra MR, you can swap out randuins and still be in the neighborhood of 4k HP. Sunfire and Thornmail plus mundos damage from W and Q are all magic damage, and outside of Q (and even then in most cases you're in abyssal debuff range when chasing), you're in abyssals debuff range. This only helps those do more damage as its reducing your MR and mundos W DOES have AP scaling, abyssal alone won't make it too overbearing but every little bit helps.

The amount of damage you can end up doing with this is pretty absurd honestly, it's not burst damage by any stretch but you're burning everything down slowly as you're sitting on top of the enemies faces Mundo-ing away. It's legit, trust me.

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BluePolarizer1 votes

Problem is, Mundo still gets melted by Vayne, one of the most popular ADCs right now.

HateDaddy1 votes

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Problem is, Mundo still gets melted by Vayne, one of the most popular ADCs right now.

I said it wasn't a must, but you could build all armor items and it still wouldn't matter.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

If you want damage more than defense, item 3091 might be better than Abyssal Scepter due to the attack speed (E) and on-hit damage.

You don't the get AoE MR reduction for your W, but you have higher single-target damage.

HateDaddy1 votes

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If you want damage more than defense, item 3091 might be better than Abyssal Scepter due to the attack speed (E) and on-hit damage.

You don't the get AoE MR reduction for your W, but you have higher single-target damage.

I don't like it on him even though in theory it's very good with the steroid on his E. For starters, the MR is conditional on constantly auto attcking, which you won't always be doing because you will spend time getting kited. And I'd take the aoe flat debuff that gives me 50 MR (and a much simpler recipe) over wits end.

Koldheartedjsp1 votes

First mr item is visage yes?

Ehh... Never considered abyssal on mundo but i can see it. It has the added benefit of really helping your ap in teamfights. If you have an ad mid there's 0 chance I'd consider it. Banshees also has hp and the shield is in a way pseudo hp.

HateDaddy1 votes

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First mr item is visage yes?

Ehh... Never considered abyssal on mundo but i can see it. It has the added benefit of really helping your ap in teamfights. If you have an ad mid there's 0 chance I'd consider it. Banshees also has hp and the shield is in a way pseudo hp.

Oh no, SV is always the first MR item of choice on Mundo, no questions asked. It's way too good on him for it not to be.

I probably would still get it, even with an AP mid just so my W, Sunfire burn and Thornmail are doing significantly more damage over time against swuishy targets. And while banshees is good for HPs sake, you're already in the neighborhood of 4kHP plus the regen from Warmogs without it. The shield is insignificant on tanks tbh, they're usually easily burned on spammable spells since you're front lining before a fight breaks down. Ask yourself this: how many times as a tank have you gone into a fight with an active banshees shield?

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