So firstly, im not saying this champ is op, what im saying is this champ is beyond tilting to deal with, he has a stun on a 4 second CD that lasts for 2 seconds and is undodgeable, with the only counterplay being QSS, (which has a 90 Sec CD) i understand mages can abuse him from range, but i prefer melee champs, and his stun is infuriating to deal with, and i feel the cooldown should be lengthened and some of his power shifted elsewhere in his kit
50000000000000001 votesWhich melee champions do you like to play? A lot of melee champions can use untargetability or dashes (as in casting dash right before getting stunned, to reduce the stun duration) to avoid stuns. If you're a tank, you might even want to tank the stun so your carries can do damage instead of being stunned.
Xavanic1 votesWhich melee champions do you like to play? A lot of melee champions can use untargetability or dashes (as in casting dash right before getting stunned, to reduce the stun duration) to avoid stuns. If you're a tank, you might even want to tank the stun so your carries can do damage instead of being stunned.
My problem is i prefer bruisers like kled...but when im stunned all the time i cant do much
FridgesArePpl21 voteshe already loses lane to basically everyone
Xavanic1 voteshe already loses lane to basically everyone
Yeah, but his late game pisses me right off, i literally cant play the game because im to busy getting stunned
MorganFreemanBot1 votesYeah, but his late game pisses me right off, i literally cant play the game because im to busy getting stunned
Late-game TF is probably the most vulnerable caster in the entire game.
No defenses. No escapes. His only form of CC is unreliable on how twitch it is; if he's jumped on when unprepared he has to PRAY that gold card is the first one that comes up, otherwise he has no way to survive the impending ass pounding.
Xavanic1 votesLate-game TF is probably the most vulnerable caster in the entire game.
No defenses. No escapes. His only form of CC is unreliable on how twitch it is; if he's jumped on when unprepared he has to PRAY that gold card is the first one that comes up, otherwise he has no way to survive the impending ass pounding.
Perhaps give him an escape then? seems more logical then giving him a super short CD stun that makes him infuriating to play against
MorganFreemanBot1 votesPerhaps give him an escape then? seems more logical then giving him a super short CD stun that makes him infuriating to play against
Giving every champion an escape is NOT the answer; that's how we got where we are now, where immobile champs are garbage.
Quite frankly, TF is fine. His W stun is super annoying late game for immobile melee, but he's also extremely easy to kill if caught and has the ability to legitimately fuck it up.
Xavanic1 votesGiving every champion an escape is NOT the answer; that's how we got where we are now, where immobile champs are garbage.
Quite frankly, TF is fine. His W stun is super annoying late game for immobile melee, but he's also extremely easy to kill if caught and has the ability to legitimately fuck it up.
giving a champ a super short CD stun is not the answer either, Targeted cc should be limited to melee range abilites, conditional abilites (sej E), or ultimate abilites, while i understand that we do need targeted CC, tf is the last champ with a truly toxic CC, perhaps make his pick a card a skill shot?
MorganFreemanBot1 votesgiving a champ a super short CD stun is not the answer either, Targeted cc should be limited to melee range abilites, conditional abilites (sej E), or ultimate abilites, while i understand that we do need targeted CC, tf is the last champ with a truly toxic CC, perhaps make his pick a card a skill shot?
Again, TF's stun is the only un-reliable targetted ability in the entire game. It can be screwed up, and due to changes a few seasons ago it can't really be held.
TF's weakness is being dove and murdered, as well as having a not-too-stellar laning phase. He's perfectly fine, and his gold card is also fine given how otherwise vulnerable he is, and how unpredictable / twitch sensitive its activation is.
Gibberwatt1 votesI believe what you just said there is that TF looses to range, and wins against melee, so you want riot to make it so he looses to melee too. I don't think that's how it works.
Xavanic1 votesI believe what you just said there is that TF looses to range, and wins against melee, so you want riot to make it so he looses to melee too. I don't think that's how it works.
No, my problem isnt his laning phase power, i want him to be less frustrating in the late game, i literally cant kite or dodge or anything, and all the ends up happening is i sit there eating the adc's damage while stunned for 90% of the fight, if i build Edge of night to stop it, he just uses ult to pop it....can we at least make it a skillshot?