So Yasuo was indirectly nerfed last patch as a result of Infinity Edge losing 5% Crit and yet he received absolutely no compensation.
We're talking about a champion who is already in the bottom 10 win rates in this game. Its not like he can build Phantom Dancer either so, Riot whats your stance on this?
Sukishoo5 votesAnd just WHY can't he build a PD? They may have nerfed part of IE but buffed PD in it's place. PD is still crit, and it has a very nice passive along with it.
Nausicäa 4 votesCan you not do basic math? 35% x 2 = 70 20%x 2 = 40 110% Crit chance, hard work i know, say hi to Kaceytron in Bronze V for me.
Furthermore he relies on Shiv Proc for his damage.
Sukishoo1 votesYou're cute.
Actually if you're good he DOESN'T rely on a shiv proc.
G5 btw.
Talamare1 votesCan you not do basic math? 35% x 2 = 70 20%x 2 = 40 110% Crit chance, hard work i know, say hi to Kaceytron in Bronze V for me.
Furthermore he relies on Shiv Proc for his damage.
Get IE, Shiv and 10% worth of Crit Runes
JustMyBassCannon1 votesIt's going to take up more than one section to get 10% Crit Chance.
Also, runes aren't supposed to "fix" champions.
JustMyBassCannon3 votesThird person in the thread to ask the question instead of looking to see if the question was asked (and subsequently answered), and the answer is still because Statikk Shiv's burst damage is worth more than the +15% AS difference between Shiv and PD.
On top of that, Yasuo players try not to go over 100% Crit Chance. IE+PD still hits 110% Crit Chance.
Sukishoo2 votesStop relying on the burst of the Shiv. That's where many of your problems are.
I hope they remove that next then maybe people could learn to play better.
JustMyBassCannon3 votesStop relying on BotRK as Vayne
Stop relying on Archangel's as Ryze
Stop relying on Runaan's as Kalista
Stop relying on Revolver/Visage as Vladimir
Oh, wait, champions rely on core items because they amplify the way the champion functions. Telling them to stop relying on their core item is basically saying "Fuck you and your champion."
Sukishoo2 votesLol. In whose awful build would Runaan's be a core on Kalista LOLOL.
Also seen many people play Vayne & Vlad without those.
Ryze is different cause he's mana based, and grows in power from mana due to his passive.
Really though, none of these items are truly core on anyone. You can build champs in many ways and have the same if not better results.
It's like the whole DFG thing. I've been playing Ahri again and haven't been building DFG since it's being removed and she does just fine without it.
JustMyBassCannon3 votesLol. In whose awful build would Runaan's be a core on Kalista LOLOL.
Let's see.
So what's the downside to picking up Runaan's on Kalista?
Also seen many people play Vayne & Vlad without those.
I've also seen Mundo play without Warmog's, and I've also seen Veigar without Rabadon's. Keep going on about one case of someone playing champ X without their core.
Ryze is different cause he's mana based, and grows in power from mana due to his passive.
How is it different? I named champions with their core items, and your only argument is "Lol I saw this one dipshit play them without that, and Ryze is different because I said so."
Really though, none of these items are truly core on anyone. You can build champs in many ways and have the same if not better results.
I challenge you to actually show me any single item that provides greater damage potential on Vayne than BotRK. Same deal with Ryze and Archangel's Staff.
It's like the whole DFG thing. I've been playing Ahri again and haven't been building DFG since it's being removed and she does just fine without it.
DFG actually caused balance issues with mage assassins, and has caused those problems for years. They tried to balance it indirectly, nerfing the champions that were considered abuse cases. They tried to balance it directly, changing its build and numbers multiple times. In the end, it was still fucking up balance.
Statikk Shiv is not nearly similar.
Sukishoo1 votesFor Kalista, there's far better things, that's why. Many things give her and any adc much much better AS. I've only ever used Runaans on a Teemo because he has pretty much no team fighting potential.
How is it different? I named champions with their core items, and your only argument is "Lol I saw this one dipshit play them without that, and Ryze is different because I said so."
LOL. Talk about rude. It wasn't one person, I've seen many people. Ryze is different because he's passive causes him to NEED mana, there's nothing specifically on Vayne that says she NEED to have a Bork.
I challenge you to actually show me any single item that provides greater damage potential on Vayne than BotRK. Same deal with Ryze and Archangel's Staff.
Bork is a Health cutting attack speed item, it's not damage orientated at all. Yes it does give a small amount of AD but not much. You know nothing about these items. Learn what they truly do before talking.
JustMyBassCannon2 votesBork is a Health cutting attack speed item, it's not damage orientated at all. Yes it does give a small amount of AD but not much. You know nothing about these items. Learn what they truly do before talking.
Do you even read what you're saying, or are you just trolling at this point?
For 8% of current HP to deal 50 damage--as much as BF Sword is worth--your target needs 625 health. For every 625 health your target has, you get another BF Sword worth of damage.
In order for the average damage per hit--not the DPS, as BotRK also provides AS--to be equal to that of Bloodthirster, your target needs 1375 HP when you start fighting them.
But what do I know? Just a bunch of math, numbers and mechanics behind pretty much fucking everything in this game. That amounts to knowing nothing, right?
Sukishoo1 votesDo you read anything? No? Didn't think so.
It's a maximum health negating item.
Bye now.
JustMyBassCannon2 votesOkay, so you are a garbage troll.
Thank god. I was worried for a moment that I was arguing with and insulting a retard. Now I can feel absolutely no guilt.
Sukishoo1 votesYou're the only troll here. You know very little about how these work and what they are meant for. Espeically seeing that you're unranked, you have no sense of how to get the full effect of them.
JustMyBassCannon2 votesShoo be doo
Sukishoo1 votesYup troll, even uses garbage images. So sad. Grow up some.
JustMyBassCannon2 votes"Oh, he used an image, he's a troll."
I've seen that phrase in these forums more often than, "You're only defending them because you play them."
Good night, enjoy finding someone who doesn't purposely entertain trolls.
Sukishoo1 votesTruth hurts you obviously, so swim away trolly.
InSingedWeTrust4 votesWhy can't you build PD again? Let me know.
Kuroi863 votes
Because my precious 
burst!
I needs it!!!
Daithus3 votesThat's the point Riot is making. Previously, IE and Static gave soo much that it completely gimped his build diversity. This nerf to IE makes it so players now have to choose between "Do I want the better lane phase or do I want the better damage?"
JustMyBassCannon3 votesThey're still going to go with Shiv, because PD overloads the Crit Chance and doesn't actually provide better damage output. +15% AS compared to Shiv, or the burst damage that fits perfectly with his constant move-and-attack design?
Knight SoIaire 1 votesthey should nerf static for that nowadays i barely even see pd in game, static is just a better purchase
Major Sparkles1 votesBecause Yas can already dash through minions...
Knight SoIaire 1 votes200 magic damage
owerall the static is already better on most adc's becuse it gives some dmg
so it wins even harder on a champion who can make this damage crit almoust always
BeatzBoyFTW4 votesUmm so? Nerfs on a broken ass champ is everyone's favourite wishes.
Malix Farwin3 votesYasuo is almost ban status again but not in the same way. I almost want to ban him so that my team does not lock him in. If someone locks in yasuo, you pretty much forced your team to build around you. That seems to be what is he balanced around. Its funny they gave him slight buffs in 4.21 but then did a huge nerf to him in 5.1
Talamare2 votesBetter nerf him some more just in case
xLegendary Troll2 votesWhy can't he build PD? Is there something in the system that prevents you from doing so? Or do you always go shiv because that's what everyone else did?
JustMyBassCannon4 votesStatikk Shiv provides a solid amount of burst mixed with your DPS, and with Yasuo's playstyle of constant attacking and moving, it builds charge very quickly. He gets more out of that burst than he gets out of +15% AS.
And unit collision is pointless with Yasuo for the most part.
So it's a choice between Shiv's magic damage burst or PD's Crit Chance, which would bring Yas to 110%.
The Whamboozler2 votesThis is an outrage riot. Someone, somewhere is still playing Yasuo! Nerf him again pls.
Social Justice 11 votesJust take 2 crit chance reds instead of one
DuGz1 votesSo Yasuo was indirectly nerfed last patch as a result of Infinity Edge losing 5% Crit and yet he received absolutely no compensation.
We're talking about a champion who is already in the bottom 10 win rates in this game. Its not like he can build Phantom Dancer either so, Riot whats your stance on this?
I also main Yasuo and to counter this I got rid of 1 AD quint and 4 ad marks in total 6.1 AD in exchange for 4 crit chance marks and 1 crit chance quint which brings it up to 10% exactly so I've only lost 6.1 AD from this nerf (And like 3k more IP haha) early game which is tiny really.
IcyPepper1 votesYou're right.
Let's buff him by having a delay on when he can use his windwall to promote counterplay.
