you know why riot REALLY cut the level 30 grind in half?

ScarnMichaelScar·Mar 13, 2016·5 votes·2,635 views

because they want people to hit 30 fast, have no champs runes or even pages.

that way they'll spend a bunch of RP so they can jump right into competitive play. if it takes half the exp to hit 30 now, i really doubt anyone will have enough ip saved to buy even 3 6300's before 30. so what does that say about runes and rune pages?

riot wants to catch noobs with their pants down. they want to entice them into paying money just to get more IP than what the current joke amount per game is. they want noobs to make the decision oh "Do i want to log hundreds of hours farming IP, or should i just bust out my wallet and PAY TO WIN"

riot is a bunch of lecherous money-grubbing vampires and a shell of what it formerly was.

RIP LEAGUE OF LEGENDS. SEASON 1-5

HELLO LEAGUE OF MICROTRANSACTIONS S1

17 Comments

venomous frostMar 13, 20165 votes

people having been complaining that it takes too long to reach level 30, and now people complain that you reach 30 too fast...

ScarnMichaelScarMar 13, 20163 votes

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people having been complaining that it takes too long to reach level 30, and now people complain that you reach 30 too fast...

i never complained. i liked that it took longer. it gave new players time to actually LEARN the game, and figure out what champs they like before jumping into ranked and ruining it for everyone else.

the only people this change is really helping is smurfs. new players are gonna get to 30 fast, hop into ranked right away, and then shit up the queues for everyone else because they lack the basic knowledge of the game.

it took me about 200 games to get to 25 alone before the exp changes.

i'd say to really get the hang of everything this game throws at you, you'd need 300 games. and even then, 300 games isn't enough to outfit you with 3 rune pages and 20 champions. let alone proficient at them. i'd say it takes about 30-40 games on a champ to really start learning how to play them well..

these new players aren't going to have ANY experience(haha) in competitive play or even with half of their owned champions

OutCognitoMar 13, 20163 votes

No. They did it because I just hit lvl 30 a few weeks ago after purchasing multiple exp boosts and dedicating three days to leveling.

ScarnMichaelScarMar 13, 20162 votes

Oh look at the hivemind swoops in to downvote without a word when the ugly truth rears its head.

riot games is a business first, player's best friend second. learn to economy boys.

ModWulf HelhammerMar 13, 20164 votes

Ever stop to think you might be wrong?

bbbMar 13, 20161 votes

wtf means to be wrong? hes right about everything because everyone is right about everything and noone is right about nothing if donald trump becomes president then murica becomes trumpia if hillary clinton becomes president then murica becomes hillaria(ous) if ben carson becomes president then murica becomes carsonia

BUDDHISTINKMar 13, 20164 votes

whatchu talkin' 'bout Willis?

ScarnMichaelScarMar 13, 20162 votes

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Ever stop to think you might be wrong?

no, because this game DOES have a steep learning curve, and even the old grind to 30 wasn't enough to get people ready for ranked.

now they'll be even worse.

Your Next KillMar 13, 20162 votes

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no,

There's your problem

BUDDHISTINKMar 13, 20162 votes

You honestly think the grind from 1-30 helped anyone? I can tell you from experience that no one new wants to endure that.

My Sea CowMar 13, 20162 votes

I don't care that they reduced the experience needed. As someone who is leveling up anot her account it's quite tedious to get through the leveling process. Don't like it then stop playing the game. Posting makes no difference

disregardableMar 13, 20161 votes

No, that's ridiculous. Riot needs feedback to make the game better. There will be people that agree and disagree with every single change. If everyone that disagreed never posted, Riot would have no idea which ideas are absolute shit and which ones are okay with the community as a whole.

BUDDHISTINKMar 13, 20161 votes

Dissent is welcome when your ideas and concepts are coherent and reasonable in relation to the outcome. This is something to help the new player experience, is it for more money? Yes. We cannot fault Riot wanting to improve that to raise money/popularity for their game. The new player experience is one of the worst I've ever experienced, the lvl30 grind is a huge detractor for new people.

PlacentasMar 13, 20161 votes

Eh, I think there's enough people feeding and making low elo ranked difficult enough, don't need even more people who don't understand the game to be playing ranked.

TohobMar 13, 20161 votes

i've always thought that it's too fast and easy to reach level 30, because most people upon hitting level 30 still don't fully understand the game. ideally, being level 30 should require that you've played enough to have a solid grasp on the game.

but this argument is stupid. why would you need to buy 3 6300s? why would you not just buy Annie MasterYi and the other god-tier 450 champs? as for rune pages, most level 30s don't get them until a month or 2 later anyways, and you really only need one page. i spent several seasons with 2 pages, both of them having the exact same blues, yellows, and quints, with the only difference between the 2 being armor pen reds vs magic pen reds. since then i've added a couple more pages, but i still use my original 2 90% of the time.

xXAmedaeusXxJul 30, 20161 votes

Completely agree. I started in December before the patch when they cut leveling in half, and I was actually really disappointed. I got into League because of my boyfriend, and he's been playing since the beginning and he told me LOL wasn't a game you could just sign up and be good at. League takes time understanding all of the rules, lane patterns, champs, champ abilities, counters, runes, masteries, etc.

I was a quick learner, but in the 7 months I've been playing I'd maybe rate myself as a decent support. There's still so much I'm still learning, but I needed more time.

The disappointing part of it all is being queued up with all of these people that easily got into 30s... AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE GAME OR THE CHAMPIONS. More often than not I'm done playing the game at 5 minutes because my team already gave up 7 kills to a Yasuo that was actually feeding to us in the beginning. It's absurd and frustrating. There's no need/want to do dragon, or objectives which is the point of the game, and the whole reason for this is all of these noobs were thrown in with their pants down like you said.

It's a money greedy ploy; same with all of the new looting/crafting bull and the over-flowing stock of new champions (that have basically the same fucking kit. The last three champions - Sol, Taliyah, and now Kled have the same ult. Why can't they tweak the old champs? Taliyah was forgotten about basically a week after that release.) By level 30 for the new people, they only have mastered maybe 1 or 2 champs; as a newbie I'm trying to teach OTHER 30s about Vladimir's Q and Karma's mantra. Things that experienced League players know; things that League players who play ranked know.

It's really disappointing.