Thornmail Too Restrictive

AHarmlessTaco·4/11/2019, 3:32:55 PM·2 votes·3,361 views

item 3075 Considering the existance of:

item 3812 item 3146 Darius Illaoi Swain Vladimir Sylas Fiddlesticks Kayn Renekton

Wouldn't it make sense to just make Thornmail apply grievous wounds upon being dealt damage by an enemy? Tanks currently have no real way to prevent the huge amount of healing that those champions receive and it becomes counter productive for them (the tank) to even go near them. I would take this over the measly 15 damage being dealt to the attacker per auto post mitigation.

I would be fine with Bramble Vest keeping the on-being-hit-with-an-auto-attack clause, as to not totally shut out these champions too early, but later on I really don't think that Thornmail is doing its job in matches with any of these champions. ADCs sustaining isn't nearly as much of an issue as these guys half the time (looking at you VLAD).

In recompense though I would also be okay with lowering Grievous Wounds to 35%, or even 30% to match Spirit Visage. I don't want these champions gutted, I just don't want tanks to feel punished for going near them.

6 Comments

Kalikain4/11/2019, 3:37:05 PM2 votes

So we dont know what the changes are going to be, but thornmail is getting an adjustment in the next patch. edit; I think they posted on reddit, the duration is going from 1s to 3s. So hopefully that helps/is correct

Mavëríck4/11/2019, 7:22:08 PM2 votes

I love the Thornmail changes on 9.8. However I wish the Thornmail version of Grievous Wounds was higher seeing as how I have to take damage to make use of it.

Meserion4/12/2019, 1:18:44 AM2 votes

I'd change item 3075 to instead apply a super grevious wounds that blocks ALL lifesteal gained for 2 seconds after damaging the Thornmail wearer. This would be the buff item 3075 needs and would deter better than armor ever could.

Hayaishi24/11/2019, 7:20:56 PM1 votes

They should make an MR version of it. Perhaps then Vladimir will stop getting free laning phases in top.