Does anyone else think this is really a bad idea?
Instead of inflicting Grevious Wounds and screwing over all healers like Mundo, it should reduce lifesteal by a % instead
Thornmail isn't supposed to screw over champions who heal from abilities, it's supposed to be an anti physical autoattacker item
Shuyin1785 votesYou do realize that this does nothing vs Mundo's Q right? Not only is it Magic Damage (which doesnt get dropped with Thornmail) but because it's not an auto-attack GW won't even be applied.
It's funny how a lot of people were like "ADD GW TO THRONMAIL! IT WILL MAKE THE ITEM SO MUCH BETTER!" now people are like "WE WERE JOKING DON'T DO IT IT WILL RUIN ADCS VS THORNMAIL!"
FalconPawwwwnch5 votesYea I heard Mundo doesn't ever autoattack
IcyPepper1 votesIt's funny how a lot of people were like "ADD GW TO THRONMAIL! IT WILL MAKE THE ITEM SO MUCH BETTER!" now people are like "WE WERE JOKING DON'T DO IT IT WILL RUIN ADCS VS THORNMAIL!"
I mean, strawman it all you want, but the boards are made up of more than one person and opinion.
dunder kill1 votes[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Eedat3 votesYou're right. Mundo doesn't have an entire ability solely dedicated to empowering his auto attacks. Good call.
Seenan4 votesLol, something to get vs the heavy BORK spam? I'm ok with this.
Kinkou Order3 votesRegardless of this happening or not Thornmail really does need something so it is actually worth getting even in some situations.
Hexs Fortune2 votesTanks need a way to access grievous wounds aside from ~4 min cd ignite.
I like the change.
Calabok1 votesmundo needs some anti healing. how else is he gonna die?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteshttps://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/fcGLmsVB-its-happening?comment=0005
you should read the post on her by RIOT
its not gonna happen
and why does every one refuse to accept the fact that life steal is based on getting a % of hp back based on how much physical damage is dealt after reduction from armor ?
if you have more armor you reduce the amount of life steal someone can heal from by taking less damage due to the damage reduction therfor lowering the amount of damage they inflict ...
lets say they have 10% life steal and do 100 physical damage they heal for 10hp ... but you get more armor and they are now doing 80 damage to you they heal for 8 cuz it is still 10%
Khâmul1 votesthat's a good idea. Mundo won't be screwed by him don't worry for him
Ahristocats1 votesthe thing is it's supposed to fuck over draintanks, not only lifesteal
tanks aren't healing packs for 
and other things
FalconPawwwwnch1 votesI'm conflicted
I love that I can actually get an item that fks over Fiora now
ABlueQuaker1 votesI agree. Change Thornmail so it builds out of 
+ 
. 75 Armor 300 HP 10% CDR so that my 
(Tank vs. AD Heavy Team) can efficiently get 40% CDR like my Tank vs Heavy AP (
instead of Tabi and Thorn).
EDIT: It would also make it a decent rush into the BotRK spam.
Elkington VI1 votesIs it at least an active? Having a Rammus/Taric/Malphite counter my sustain as Trundle (simply for completing an item) seems kind of counter-intuitive. None of them exactly have issues dealing with auto-attackers as it is, and none of them can be killed without Subjugate.
Nearly every mage already buys 
and this is super cheap 
. Do we really need more grievous wounds right now?
