Remove trinkets, make that slot the ward slot

Pierce The Veal·Dec 26, 2017·2 votes·335 views

People seem to be ignoring how much free wards has sped up the game. Baxk when wards were 75 gold a pop, but you could have an infinite amount of them, people would be buying and placing them like crazy, slowing down full build in games in two ways. For one, the incident rate, aka people running into eachother on accident leading to a kill, would be way down and additionally the actual gold spent on the wards would slow you down as well. My suggestion is to remove the ward limit, make trinkets not be free, and then make all the trinket options as well as control wards purchaseable for the trinket slot. No I don't mean you buy the trinkets, what I mean is you buy an instance of use of the trinkets. So I can buy 10 wards and place them all down or hold them and place them when necessary.

14 Comments

AR URFDec 26, 20171 votes

They should bring back pinks because stealth is just retarted.

Pierce The VealDec 26, 20172 votes

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They should bring back pinks because stealth is just retarted.

Eh. Idk. Stealth isn't that crazy nowadays. Not as bad as it was when we still had pinks anyways.

AR URFDec 26, 20171 votes

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Eh. Idk. Stealth isn't that crazy nowadays. Not as bad as it was when we still had pinks anyways.

When it comes to item 3147 stealth is just too much.

Pierce The VealDec 26, 20171 votes

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When it comes to stealth is just too much.

Duskblade's most OP feature is being able to destroy wards passively. It's damage is great but really not that absurd.

HaIlMonitorDec 26, 20171 votes

You a vayne main?

Pierce The VealDec 26, 20171 votes

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You a vayne main?

Nah vayne is cancer. Still think stealth is in a better place now than before.

HaIlMonitorDec 26, 20171 votes

I don't, but that is because it isnt consistent. Champs like Vayne, Akali, Shaco just stay hidden, then others like eve, rengar, and twitch can be seen just by walking next to them. Eventually I would hope they either make them all similar some how, or they simply just allow reds to see the ones you can't.

Pierce The VealDec 28, 20171 votes

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I don't, but that is because it isnt consistent. Champs like Vayne, Akali, Shaco just stay hidden, then others like eve, rengar, and twitch can be seen just by walking next to them. Eventually I would hope they either make them all similar some how, or they simply just allow reds to see the ones you can't.

But all those champions have had power taken from their kits to allow them short moments of total invisibility (except Vayne, fuck Vayne). You know what was toxic before? Balancing around a single 75g item completely negating their ability. If you balance around it being negated then they don't need the ability and are outright too strong when you don't have pinks. If you balance around it not being negated then the second someone pinks the champion loses a huge part of their power budget.

HaIlMonitorDec 28, 20171 votes

Malzahar vs item 3140

Yeah its an ult and 1300, but it is very good vs him. Scanner used to work and other items too vs stealth. Also outside of Vayne, the other 2 usually dont use stealth offensively, they do it to run away or wait out cooldowns to finish you off. I don't see why basic skills in a kit cant be countered by a ward, when there are skills that get countered just as well but are ults via item 2420 item 3157 item 3140 also.

Just wonky balancing tbh.

Pierce The VealDec 28, 20171 votes

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Yeah its an ult and 1300, but it is very good vs him. Scanner used to work and other items too vs stealth. Also outside of Vayne, the other 2 usually dont use stealth offensively, they do it to run away or wait out cooldowns to finish you off. I don't see why basic skills in a kit cant be countered by a ward, when there are skills that get countered just as well but are ults via also.

Just wonky balancing tbh.

One is a consumable item that any champion can make use of.

Another is an item that basically only ADC's should buy, but is actually a very good item on ADC's with good AD and lifesteal. With a 90 second cooldown on active.

A ward or a trinket countering a champion outright is definitely broken.

BeatzBoyFTWDec 26, 20171 votes

Supports are already stingy enough to skip Sightstone & build full AP, what makes you think making wards 75g on each purchase makes it better?

Pierce The VealDec 26, 20171 votes

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Supports are already stingy enough to skip Sightstone & build full AP, what makes you think making wards 75g on each purchase makes it better?

Maybe in Bronze and Silver. Back in the day supports were buying tons of such wards. But here's the thing, sightstone will still exist. They get to have 4 wards for free.

kattzkittiDec 26, 20171 votes

Alternatively, just add a new slot specifically for use with Control Ward.

Pierce The VealDec 26, 20172 votes

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Alternatively, just add a new slot specifically for use with Control Ward.

Add another slot for the control ward. Bam. Plus there's enough room there for two slots. In fact let us pick two vision items to put there, vision items we purchase. Could be control wards, could be farsight trinkets, could be sweeping lens.