Remember when riot reverted Zed's nerf?

DropFill··5 votes·491 views

on his ultimate ? Doesn't show favoritism at all....Even though he had the same problems as always ( Incredible safe farming, opressive laning phase due to being resourceless as a assassin.... ) But champions like Rammus , Nocturne( took YEARS to revert a single nerf...) , Sejuani , Renekton, Yorick are all forgotten.

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Akali is SO HOT3 votes

git gud op

ValyrianBlade1 votes

Well to be completely fair - it was instant before, nerf was 1 second delay, revert was to 0.5 seconds.

I.e. they went for a middle ground.

He is shown favoritism, but he's got a really low win rate in solo queue i think (always has at least, can't be bothered to check at the moment) - it's only in pro games that he really stands out. Gotta let him be able to make those LC$BIGplays.

DropFill1 votes

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Well to be completely fair - it was instant before, nerf was 1 second delay, revert was to 0.5 seconds.

I.e. they went for a middle ground.

He is shown favoritism, but he's got a really low win rate in solo queue i think (always has at least, can't be bothered to check at the moment) - it's only in pro games that he really stands out. Gotta let him be able to make those LC$BIGplays.

They don't try to find a middle ground to most champions. Just nerf the hell out of them and wait months, even years to fix. Meanwhile zed took the what, two months? 3?

3TWarrior1 votes

more like one, who knows

remember ekko, mordekaiser, etc on the beta?

forums are flooded with requests for change and things turned out exactly the same as predicted, even with Sated Devourer, the item which should be a champion....

SwapShadows1 votes

maybe it's because Zed is constantly being nerfed due to new champions being released and item price reductions.

also this is on top of him already being one of the most countered champions in the game, it's funny because Zed get's nerfs every 2-3 months in the form of champions.

DropFill2 votes

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maybe it's because Zed is constantly being nerfed due to new champions being released and item price reductions.

also this is on top of him already being one of the most countered champions in the game, it's funny because Zed get's nerfs every 2-3 months in the form of champions.

Most countered champions in the game? Because of what, QSS that gives mr or zhonyas hourglass that he forces you into?

Enosetc1 votes

when zed is oppressive, you don't get to interact with him because he's some combination of too safe or too mobile

when those other champions are oppressive, you don't get to interact with anyone on their team

DropFill3 votes

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when zed is oppressive, you don't get to interact with him because he's some combination of too safe or too mobile

when those other champions are oppressive, you don't get to interact with anyone on their team

When zed is oppressive, you don't farm, interact or do anything besides crying for ganks that will end up in nothing. He will eventually dive you and press R again to safety You can't interact with his team either, or he is going to nuke the hell out of you, and you are already down on farm and kills.

Enosetc1 votes

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When zed is oppressive, you don't farm, interact or do anything besides crying for ganks that will end up in nothing. He will eventually dive you and press R again to safety

and when all of those champions were too strong, they'd be able to dive you and you could do nothing about it because they were too tanky or (in nocturne's case) literally made it impossible to allies to assist you long enough to kill you off

DropFill2 votes

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and when all of those champions were too strong, they'd be able to dive you and you could do nothing about it because they were too tanky or (in nocturne's case) literally made it impossible to allies to assist you long enough to kill you off

Exactly what zed do?.... Dive you and your allies has nearly no time to react to his burst before he presses R to safety while you die to death mark

Enosetc1 votes

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Exactly what zed do?.... Dive you and your allies has nearly no time to react to his burst before he presses R to safety while you die to death mark

zed is the slowest 100-0 assassin in the game. if your allies have 0 time to react to it, then they're playing at a steady 300 ping

3TWarrior1 votes

for clarity's sake, why don't you list the champions that can kill you faster than zed?

fizz is slow but you can't hurt him while he's on the offensive

ahri has to land her E and have a solo target

akali...don' t get to face many akali

lee sin is probably the fastest but idk how he does his damage

evelynn...unless she builds pure AD, she is not going to kill anyone except for early game

WalkingInACircle1 votes

Lee's Q, and especially his ult, do stupid amounts of damage.

Read his kit, you'll never think he's balanced again.

Enosetc2 votes

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for clarity's sake, why don't you list the champions that can kill you faster than zed?

fizz is slow but you can't hurt him while he's on the offensive

ahri has to land her E and have a solo target

akali...don' t get to face many akali

lee sin is probably the fastest but idk how he does his damage

evelynn...unless she builds pure AD, she is not going to kill anyone except for early game

Ahri Akali Ekko Fizz Katarina Leblanc Rengar Talon

all of these champs 100-0 faster than zed.

ap eve's burst is still insane after the nerfs naturally ahri has to have a solo target -- that's why it's assassination

DropFill1 votes

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Ahri Akali Ekko Fizz Katarina Leblanc Rengar Talon

all of these champs 100-0 faster than zed.

ap eve's burst is still insane after the nerfs naturally ahri has to have a solo target -- that's why it's assassination

Katarina ONLY nukes you faster when EXTREMELY ahead Her 1v1 is lame against pretty much most champions. Akali only when really fed too. Since the can't proc Q with her E anymore, she actually has to AA you. A single rotation you not kill you. Ekko? Not really. If he can't kill you with EQ and passive proc, he will take way more time than zed to kill you Fizz needs 3s because of the shark just like zed needs to wait his mark to proc. And ALL this champions you listed, except ahri, has a hard time farming, meanwhile zed....

DropFill1 votes

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zed is the slowest 100-0 assassin in the game. if your allies have 0 time to react to it, then they're playing at a steady 300 ping

It takes more time to his burst to happen, so to compensate, he is the most safe one. He can unleash his combo and get away, and when the mark procs , you die. It takes more time to his burst to happen because he doesn't even need to stay the whole time close to you for you to die. Combo you, and gets away with R, and you die after to the mark. How your allies react when he can unleash all his combo really fast and then go away? Nothing they can do to the mark except shield or heal you

Enosetc1 votes

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It takes more time to his burst to happen, so to compensate, he is the most safe one. He can unleash his combo and get away, and when the mark procs , you die. It takes more time to his burst to happen because he doesn't even need to stay the whole time close to you for you to die. Combo you, and gets away with R, and you die after to the mark. How your allies react when he can unleash all his combo really fast and then go away? Nothing they can do to the mark except shield or heal you

that's still a hell of a lot more than you could do vs season 2 nocturne, who just killed you before the darkness lapsed

DropFill1 votes

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that's still a hell of a lot more than you could do vs season 2 nocturne, who just killed you before the darkness lapsed

The difference between season 2 nocturne and season 5 nocturne is his ultimate CD right?

Enosetc1 votes

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The difference between season 2 nocturne and season 5 nocturne is his ultimate CD right?

if you don't count the multiple changes to itemization and the jungle itself

KayleeT1 votes

Energy is a resource... and an even more gated one than mana because it's not builable

DropFill1 votes

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Energy is a resource... and an even more gated one than mana because it's not builable

Energy is a resource that only gates you in teamfights when you want to spam all your abilities more than once. Which is not even necessary as zed because a full rotation will kill most squishy targets. He can also AA because of BoTRK

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