In diamond + lucian has a 29.8% pick rate with a 52.8% wr

Rexxiee··19 votes·8,911 views

You cant be stupid enough to go with that buff on pbe can you riot?

Hes already the 2nd best adc in the game, only behind the even more broken jhin, he should be recieving NERFS with stat like those, not buffs.

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MrFawknSunshine4 votes

well one could argue he is tired for 3rd best .

kai'sa, jihn, mf/lucian

Rexxiee1 votes

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well one could argue he is tired for 3rd best .

kai'sa, jihn, mf/lucian

Mf is a low elo solo q champ

The difference between kaisa, jhin, lucian and the rest of the adc champ pool is a giant chasm.

MrFawknSunshine7 votes

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Mf is a low elo solo q champ

The difference between kaisa, jhin, lucian and the rest of the adc champ pool is a giant chasm.

you claim MF is only good in low elo but https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/diamond/plus/champion/MissFortune/

has her with a 53.42% win rate 10.67% pick rate 3.96% ban rate

boricCentaur11 votes

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you claim MF is only good in low elo but https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/diamond/plus/champion/MissFortune/

has her with a 53.42% win rate 10.67% pick rate 3.96% ban rate

Stats mean nothing give real points like how alot of top adc dont play mf which shows she gets worse as you go up elo and that is how you make a point with stats not just saying numbers.

MrFawknSunshine2 votes

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Stats mean nothing give real points like how alot of top adc dont play mf which shows she gets worse as you go up elo and that is how you make a point with stats not just saying numbers.

how many more top adc players are there in diamond + elo . that is what the stat states diamond, master, challenger

Fisher No Chains3 votes

The difference between Lucian and Kai’Sa is that both need nerfs, but while Lucian isn’t played much atm in pro play and Riot is buffing him, Kai’Sa is basically broken both in SoloQ and Pro play and she isn’t even being considered for nerfs.

“Balance” team eks de

Fisher No Chains4 votes

Whoever defends Lucian saying that he’s bad in high elo either can’t read and understand stats, or has never played vs a decent one.

That champion bursts harder than some assassins at some stages of the game. It’s insane that his bread and butter spell is also buffed while he’s in a clearly overpowered state.

But hey it’s almost time for Worlds, it’s that time of the year in which we’re made to suffer for pro play’s sake.

Daddy Ants3 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/f143a9424127fc0441394e4ba06f489c.png

Lucian has a POSITIVE LANE WIN RATE against every ADC who isn't Miss Fortune...

I'm not counting Yasuo due to the 0.97% pick rate.

How the hell can they justify him needing buffs?

If this buff goes through, I guess I'll perm ban Lucian again.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

Riot wants him to be played at world

In high elo Lucian is actually almost impossible to be played because people know how to play around his kit 500 range 22 sec cd dash high mana costs

That being said, the buffs they're giving him should not be the answer to that problem all they're achieving is making him permabanned while being half decent in pro

MrFawknSunshine6 votes

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Riot wants him to be played at world

In high elo Lucian is actually almost impossible to be played because people know how to play around his kit 500 range 22 sec cd dash high mana costs

That being said, the buffs they're giving him should not be the answer to that problem all they're achieving is making him permabanned while being half decent in pro

you say high elo but the OP brought up DIAMOND + , so is diamond not high elo now ?

Hayaishi2 votes

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you say high elo but the OP brought up DIAMOND + , so is diamond not high elo now ?

[EDITED BY MODERATION - ULANOPO] no point discussing with him.

Lucian is broken af and i'd know because i've been abusing him for about 40 games now only because Jhin got boring. They are both too strong compared to every other ADC.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

yea well good job i figured out that it's hard to play Lucian in plat

D357R0Y3R2 votes

if you think diamond is high elo you need to think again then you really think that diamond players play around winning conditions?

why do you think that upset rekkles or even FUCKING RULER stopped playing Lucian

MrFawknSunshine2 votes

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if you think diamond is high elo you need to think again then you really think that diamond players play around winning conditions?

why do you think that upset rekkles or even FUCKING RULER stopped playing Lucian

so if its not pro play its not high elo?

D357R0Y3R1 votes

Basically Lucian is not good once the enemies know his laning pathern, that's the only reason he's not picked in pro or by high elo adcs

they should decrease his passive damage Q damage and then lower his E cd from 22 to 18 sec

Boom, he becomes he's not as abusable as right now, AND at the same time he doesn't oneshot targets that get into his range

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

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Basically Lucian is not good once the enemies know his laning pathern, that's the only reason he's not picked in pro or by high elo adcs

they should decrease his passive damage Q damage and then lower his E cd from 22 to 18 sec

Boom, he becomes he's not as abusable as right now, AND at the same time he doesn't oneshot targets that get into his range

but arent alot of the pro players high diamond elos ? and they are the ones picking it and playing it. and oh by the way... those stats include elos higher then diamond.

dude stop trolling and changing your mind what "high "elo is to fit ur argument

D357R0Y3R2 votes

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but arent alot of the pro players high diamond elos ?

No? lmao

and they are the ones picking it and playing it.

nobody picks lucian the most dedicated lucian player in pro is Upset

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=s04+upset

No lucian games since months

dude stop trolling and changing your mind what "high "elo is to fit ur argument

I am legit not understanding how you're not understanding what i'm saying http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=rekkles http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=gengruler http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=ktdeft

go and tell to the best adcs in the world to pick lucian

MrFawknSunshine4 votes

http://gol.gg/champion/champion-stats/50/season-S8/split-Summer/tournament-ALL/patch-ALL/role-ALL/league-ALL/

stats from pro games this season for lucian

407 bans, 398 picks 39% presence 199w-199l 50% win rate

so this is pro play. the best adcs in the world, the high of high elos he has a 50% win rate

now tell me how bad he is

D357R0Y3R2 votes

bro wtf? why are you taking the entire season for stats? we're not playing in the past, we're playing in the present

https://i.gyazo.com/b1da3745f2421d771ea2ea8304803336.png

this is his stats right now

MrFawknSunshine4 votes

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bro wtf? why are you taking the entire season for stats? we're not playing in the past, we're playing in the present

https://i.gyazo.com/b1da3745f2421d771ea2ea8304803336.png

this is his stats right now

see any way u can twist it to try to suit ur argument. i bring up diamond + u say its low elo, u say he is no good in pro play i bring it up. he has been a solid pick in pro play all season. im done responding to you.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

why would i need to twist anything

Riot wants Lucian played at world obviously they would look at how he's doing RIGHT NOW in pro not 5 patches ago, and not in diamond+, diamond players are not pro players

:/

Sewer Side4 votes

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if you think diamond is high elo you need to think again then you really think that diamond players play around winning conditions?

why do you think that upset rekkles or even FUCKING RULER stopped playing Lucian

Even D5, as much of a trench it is, is only 1% of the server’s playerbase and it that number gets drastically smaller as you go higher in the division.

Diamond IS high elo.

Sharpest glasses2 votes

You cant be stupid enough to go with that buff on pbe can you riot?

ahahh, joke on u (look at Irelia )

BestPudgeNA2 votes

ADC favoritism. I called it back in 8.11.

8.11= ADC nerfs Followed by ADCs crying Followed by ADCs Buffs Followed by more buffs and ADC getting to be busted and 1 v 9 every gane Riot doesn't care the other roles don't get the play the game past 20 mins.

Better learn to pick a tank or support mage and buff/stand in front of the ADC like the good little pawn.

9NINE1 votes

balance team at its finest.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Cite your statistics?

Disembark1 votes

His play rate skyrocketed after skin release. After his latest set of nerfs he was okay.

He’s also pretty much unplayable in Master+. Even double lift doesn’t touch him.

Naymliss5 votes

Looking at his U.gg for master and challenger I disagree. 53% winrate with a 29% pick rate in masters and 51.5 with a 27.7% pick rate in challenger

Daddy Ants2 votes

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His play rate skyrocketed after skin release. After his latest set of nerfs he was okay.

That's bullshit.

He's ALWAYS had a high play rate this season.

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