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Do you think Soraka needs a change ?

option paralysis··2 votes·380 views

I played the pre-rework Soraka a lot in the support role and I loved her. After the rework I didn't play her for like half a year, then I started again, and she helped me get to diamond with almost 70% win rate (among my other mains). Nobody even played Soraka several months ago and people even begged me not to play her in champ select. Then after a few buffs she's started being played again and after getting picked in LCS i think, she was OP and toxic, etc.

I understand why though, her heal in lane is just ridiculous, you can't ever focus the adc because he will be full hp in matter of seconds and her global ult can be annoying to deal with also. It's hard to focus her if you just stand far back with your ADC, like I did and it was funny to watch people try to get to me and fail. But before, her heal was like on a 25 sec cd and now it's 1.1 with 40% cdr. Why would you even do that ? If she was annoying before, I don't understand how that change should've put her in a fun to play or fun to play against state, or "not only a healer bot".

Do you think she needs another rework or will she just get nerfed again ? Honestly, if the rework puts her in a better place, rather than just spam W to win, I'd welcome it and maybe change the W, because sometimes it still buggs me that you can't heal yourself when Q is too slow. Or that would just promote the solo lane Soraka again, Idk...

Btw, KirbyCake the Soraka mid genius, I salute you, he doesn't play her anymore after the rework.

8 Comments

Miku Append2 votes

I just want old Soraka back. So much better...

Blumpkin Nation1 votes

It is ridiculous. But, that's why you always focus Soraka in a 2 vs 2 setting. Pre-6, if you keep focusing her, it should be easy to gain a lead on her and her ADC.

Easier said than done but she's still squishy and building health doesn't matter in regards to her heal because she always loses 10% of her max health. She's still a heal bot, but they just gave her a little more counter play other than hitting W once and giving your team mate a ton of armor and health instantly.

....Oh wait. She still does that. :3 Well, if anything, they should probably increase the mana cost of her W so she can't spam it too much.

option paralysis1 votes

I don't think mana increase would change anything, you'd just buy mana regen or mana pots, her mana cost on Q and E is already enough, I think a more drastic change would be better, but other than increasing cd on W or reverting, I'm out of ideas.

Jacknife1 votes

I would say decrease the range of her other abilities (W and E) to get her closer to the frontline. She has no incentive to ever leave the backline, or enough threat to be the first target. If you focus her first, yeah she may die, but the damage dealers are still up, so whoever focused her down is more than likely to die in turn, so you traded a carry (more than likely an assassin) or an initiation tank for a support... worth.

Aside from that she always just sits in the back and spams abilities, even building AP she can't do enough to kill anyone, and her kit only works at locking people down in the middle of a teamfight when everyone is distracted, so there's no reason to stick her neck out. The only time she ever does is to sprint to a low health teammate, and then that teammate can just do the fighting for her while she runs back to safety. It's like Morde's case back in Season 1 of "Always shield never die" except shield is replaced with healed, and it counts towards the entire team.

Chuck Charles1 votes

as someone who has abused raka themselves, I don't know if she needs nerfs. she is definitely 100% oppressive in lane if played right. I usually run health regen quints/yellows, start flask/4 pots and tell my adc to go ham and as long as they dont get instagibbed we will win every single trade. and it works. my adc goes in. gets down to 25% health, they are at 50% and i heal him to 100% while also being 100% cuz of my self sustain.

she has a dominant nearly auto win in lane phase, however there are major drawbacks to a soraka that I think justify her ridiculous sustain. she has next to no kill pressure, no protection for ganks really, and really can't do anything besides heal. the silence is very situational and rarely roots. its more of a zoning or reactionary thing than aything. she is also very squishy outside of lane phase and in team fights you have to be close to whoever you are healing. if the team is smart, the moment you go into heal anyone they will stop focusing that person and immediately explode you in seconds. granted, you can out position and thats what makes a good raka a good one, but she has some serious drawbacks for her healing power. she offers no damage, next to no utility outside of heal and is squishy. she is literally just a healer.

so i feel nerfs are NOT necessary. she has no way to stop hard engage or peel other than to heal and if you are against a lane that can instagib you or the adc like annie/graves for example....all that sustain means nothing.

she just feels bad because again, you can't really trade with her. she will just sustain up. To beat raka in lane, as adc i usually rush a bloodthirster or essence reaver and just farm. if they try to trade with me I now have my own form of sustain to heal up and I can hit the raka once or twice, dodge the q's and maybe wittle her down. you'll rarely get kills against a raka lane unless you are all-in like Leona/thresh/blitz/annie....but you can deal with her. she will rarely kill you as well.

imo, shes who you pick when you just want your adc to survive lane phase.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

what do you mean buffs? ive played soraka even after changes and she got a nerf for her health regen to almost 0

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

she doesn't need a change she is fine the way she is....

option paralysis1 votes

I don't think she's fine the way she is if everybody complains when they see the heals and she's been steadily rising in ban rate. I just want to play Soraka without everybody complaining how toxic the heals are and cursing her. LOL I don't know what should be done, but I welcome any ideas and discussions about Soraka.

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