Still no Jinx nerfs.

50CaliberHecate·Sep 22, 2019·28 votes·11,987 views

Stillllllllllllll waiting Riot. This is unacceptable. You had all last week to add something to the PBE for a nerf on her, you still got this week though. Do something. https://i.imgur.com/xb7Ar8p.png

40 Comments

Crescent DuskSep 22, 201915 votes

She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard.

Jesi OniSep 22, 20192 votes

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She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard.

Vayne is getting buffed 🤣

stone the blacksSep 22, 20193 votes

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She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard.

WORRY NOT THEIR BUFFING VAYNE!

Daddy AntsSep 22, 20192 votes

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WORRY NOT THEIR BUFFING VAYNE!

Being a Vayne main myself, I'm gonna remain neutral on the impact of this buff until I've managed to get some live server testing for myself.

Y E S H U A Sep 23, 20191 votes

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Being a Vayne main myself, I'm gonna remain neutral on the impact of this buff until I've managed to get some live server testing for myself.

It’s stra8 up damage buff lol

Daddy AntsSep 23, 20191 votes

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It’s stra8 up damage buff lol

So was the E change in 9.15 but it did jack shit to her.

stone the blacksSep 23, 20191 votes

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Being a Vayne main myself, I'm gonna remain neutral on the impact of this buff until I've managed to get some live server testing for myself.

y tho? its an uneeded buff she has a light lead over a 50% WR and their giving her more anti squishy burst damage in ult so she can be even more of anti tank and anti squishy assassin bs champ. Might aswell giver her aoe on her q at this point so she can outclass kai'sa

Daddy AntsSep 23, 20191 votes

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y tho? its an uneeded buff she has a light lead over a 50% WR and their giving her more anti squishy burst damage in ult so she can be even more of anti tank and anti squishy assassin bs champ. Might aswell giver her aoe on her q at this point so she can outclass kai'sa

The 9.15 change to E made people think it would "break her" and it didn't.

I'm gonna wait and see how it plays out before I agree or disagree with you.

SucctionSep 22, 20192 votes

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She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard.

Hard agree. Vayne has always done this, and I don't care where she sits in terms of balance, all of her counterplay is in-lane. Once she's out of lane, nobody can do anything. She either lost and has to catch up, or she won and no melee on the enemy team gets to fucking play the game at all.

Crescent DuskSep 22, 20191 votes

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Hard agree. Vayne has always done this, and I don't care where she sits in terms of balance, all of her counterplay is in-lane. Once she's out of lane, nobody can do anything. She either lost and has to catch up, or she won and no melee on the enemy team gets to fucking play the game at all.

I can handle her 1v1, but the problem is that if she even has a single CC support or jungler like rakan/alistair/nautilus/thresh/pyke or sejuani/nunu/skarner/jax, you jump on her, she tumbles and stealths, and in the interval where her supports, top lane, and jg CC you you die in 6 seconds or less even with 3 tank items because of her %hp damage.

%hp damage shouldn't even be a thing. Balance tanks to be tanks with lower damage potential, but frontlines need to be sturdier in this game and not melt in 2-3 seconds of focus fire by the adc/mage.

I'm OK with kogmaw and varus and ashe doing damage given how getting on top of them means you stay on top of them (short of ashe wasting her ult for self peel instead of initiation).

But the likes of vayne, caitlyn, xayah, kaisa doing this much damage while having all these dashes, roots/stuns/stealth is fucking dumb. If you're a tank melter, you should be a pretty immobile glass cannon character, not essentially a ranged assassin with even better scaling and teamfighting.

FlashesSep 22, 20192 votes

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She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard.

Vayne can't snowball bot easily, and Jinx's power comes from being able to turn teamfights around with her passive and AOE damage.

ADC's that ACTUALLY take over the game too hard include Kai'sa, Draven, and Lucian. Draven and Lucian are sort of designed this way.

Not to mention that you could pretty much argue that anyone who's fed can take over the game way too hard as long as they aren't a hard tank. The mid laner becomes fed? gg. The jungler becomes fed? gg. I don't get the point of this post.

Sebastit7dSep 22, 20191 votes

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She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard.

Doesn't help that bot is decided by who snowballs currently, there's never an even matchup, just one fed bot taking over on either side.

Crescent DuskSep 23, 20191 votes

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Doesn't help that bot is decided by who snowballs currently, there's never an even matchup, just one fed bot taking over on either side.

Because the losing support by that point usually feeds their ass off by being so weak for so long.

Daddy AntsSep 22, 201913 votes

I guess PROJECT: Jinx hasn't met sales targets yet.

Tin ObliteratesSep 22, 20193 votes

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I guess PROJECT: Jinx hasn't met sales targets yet.

I feel like it's the worst of all the new ones, if I saw it for the first time and you told me it's from some other skin like and not Project I would've probably believed you.

Abibyama IISep 22, 20192 votes

Skin sales memes apply only to Champions with a dash. But since Jinx is a poor immobile champion she gets a pass :D

BrokenRayquazaSep 22, 20193 votes

laughs in get excited

ThisName1sDumbSep 22, 20192 votes

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Jinx is a poor immobile champion

Guess you haven't seen her after she gets a kill or assist

Jesi OniSep 22, 20192 votes

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I guess PROJECT: Jinx hasn't met sales targets yet.

Because its AGAIN a shit-ugly-punk skin. I dont know who in art team have a fetish for mohawks but he should STOP.

Almost CreativeSep 22, 20197 votes

If I have to guess why she's been dodging nerf bullets

Low ban rate
No pro play presence
Doesn't have a million dashes in her kit
Her numbers fall off in Masters+
People don't find her as oppressive compared to

Killer of Night9Sep 22, 20191 votes

Point 1-2-5 alone make the reason of why jinx won't and shouldn't be nerfed. And point 3 is basically the reason of why point 1-2-4-5 exist.

FSRERSep 22, 20196 votes

I don't understand why there are champions, especially ADC's, that get free attack speed for nothing.

Daddy AntsSep 22, 20193 votes

Riot isn't even making an effort to hide the fact that they buff champions based on skins.

Riven has a beautiful skin and a prestige edition incoming and is getting buffed.

ZeyphelSep 22, 20192 votes

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Daddy AntsSep 22, 20191 votes

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Am I missing something or is Pyke unerfed too?

Again. Skin sales.

FallingMeteorSep 22, 20192 votes

Jinx 's Fishbones is way too strong. At lvl 9 she outranges every single champion, aside from a few exceptions, and the splash damage synergizes too well with item 3085 . But let's be real, if Riot nerfs Jinx it'll be a random nerf to her E.

Minimac2000Sep 22, 20192 votes

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's Fishbones is way too strong. At lvl 9 she outranges every single champion, aside from a few exceptions, and the splash damage synergizes too well with . But let's be real, if Riot nerfs Jinx it'll be a random nerf to her E.

"We realize that jinx as an adc has too many strong defensive tools, as such we are adjusting her e to be more rewarding to play both with and against"

E (removed)- no longer stops dashes Base damage: 120->1200 Ap scaling: .3-> 2

Incomimg jinx "nerfs"

50CaliberHecateSep 22, 20191 votes

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's Fishbones is way too strong. At lvl 9 she outranges every single champion, aside from a few exceptions, and the splash damage synergizes too well with . But let's be real, if Riot nerfs Jinx it'll be a random nerf to her E.

Fucking right? I think part of her issue isn't just her q tho, it's in her w as well. The cd on it is absurd. It's like facing a Lux with a q cd of 2 secs in URF. Not to mention, it deals more dmg with crit I'm pretty sure and that's all jinx fucking builds @______@

Sightless66Sep 22, 20191 votes

It does not deal more damage with crit. That was on the pbe for less than a week over 2 years ago.

50CaliberHecateSep 23, 20191 votes

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's Fishbones is way too strong. At lvl 9 she outranges every single champion, aside from a few exceptions, and the splash damage synergizes too well with . But let's be real, if Riot nerfs Jinx it'll be a random nerf to her E. I think if they remove the synergy of her Q working with like they did Cait's passive, I think it might help a bit. Some would say "So activating her q will initially remove her item?" Well, technically yes but her q wasn't suppose to fucking be 100 missiles flying at you, just 1

MorbysSep 22, 20192 votes

Probably b/c she has glaring weaknesses

BLIGHTBRINGERSep 22, 20191 votes

I think mostly what makes Jinx and others like her too strong is how they can really attack/poke from a really far distance with the help of one item...

item 3094

There should be a cap on Attack Range, because being attacked from 700 to all the way to 1450 (Caitlyn Passive and RFC combined adds up to 1450 Range) Units away is straight up stupid, it offers no literal counterplay, not to mention that RFC Proc also works with the 5 Man Statikk Shiv Proc, or the Runaan's Hurricane Bolt Damage.

At the very least make the bonus Attack Range scale with Level, similar to how all the Zeal Item Damage scale with level. Or remove the Unique Passive that RFC gives: making the Energized effect charge up 25% faster.

https://i.imgur.com/5mSaMGd.png[]

Logicalily Sep 22, 20191 votes

I see Kaisa a lot

Jinx OnlySep 22, 20191 votes

pretty sure she's not getting nerfed till after worlds at least, if at all.

Sees her SaladSep 22, 20191 votes

Kaisa Caitlyn Xayah

Hayaishi2Sep 23, 20191 votes

Jinx isnt nerfed yet because she doesn't see pro play. Soloqueue does not matter for the balance team.

Jerry SeinfeIdSep 23, 20191 votes

Good.

OtterlyLostSep 23, 20191 votes

I've said this before but I 100% believe that they buffed Jinx and just decided to leave her overtuned because they like to have ONE hyper carry ADC presence at Worlds and the past few seasons its been Tristana. I notice they have purposefully and willfully ignored fixing Tristana's play style issues for soloqueue(specifically the fact that she is a hypercarry who is incredibly feast or famine with a late game that is easily outscaled by other popular hyper carries) while simultaneously ignoring Jinx's gross overtuned state.

She is the ADC they want to see in Worlds just like Riven is the top laner they want to see in worlds and they're willing to watch soloqueue burn to the fucking ground in order to get it. She has been staggeringly overtuned since the start of the season and mystically flown under the radar while the boards continue to complain about champions like Ezreal and Kai'sa.

Daddy AntsSep 23, 20191 votes

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I've said this before but I 100% believe that they buffed Jinx and just decided to leave her overtuned because they like to have ONE hyper carry ADC presence at Worlds and the past few seasons its been Tristana. I notice they have purposefully and willfully ignored fixing Tristana's play style issues for soloqueue(specifically the fact that she is a hypercarry who is incredibly feast or famine with a late game that is easily outscaled by other popular hyper carries) while simultaneously ignoring Jinx's gross overtuned state.

She is the ADC they want to see in Worlds just like Riven is the top laner they want to see in worlds and they're willing to watch soloqueue burn to the fucking ground in order to get it. She has been staggeringly overtuned since the start of the season and mystically flown under the radar while the boards continue to complain about champions like Ezreal and Kai'sa.

BuT jInX dOEsNt HaVe A DaSh, InViS Or TrUe DaMaGe - Boards

Blamblam100Sep 23, 20191 votes

Im a bit confused jinx hasnt been touched since Patch 9.1 and that was a slight w quality of life change the last massive change for jinx was in 8.1 as a jinx main i think shes in a healthy spot its hard for her to scale up by just csing because thr game is usually decided before she can get 2 items without any kills which ever lane you are you can probably do something to counter her if your that afraid though playing a mage bruiser assassin you shouldnt have any trouble getting to her as long as you have summs and a dash