Preseason was supposed to make invisibility short-termed, but reliable form of stealth.
Meanwhile the most played champion in the game removes that reliability with half of his kit.
Sounds about rite.
Sraeg201344 votesHe also counters your existence with a level 3 Krug cheese and ganks two lanes at once with his mobility.
No, seriously. One moment I see him at top and like 10 seconds later he's ganking me at mid.
Wolfram Oxford67 votesHe can hard carry every game. He one shots the enemy ADC with one combo. He once got a penta kill by pressing R. He is the most interesting champion in the world.
: "I don't always start red, but when I do I level 3 gank"
Sraeg201334 votesHe can hard carry every game. He one shots the enemy ADC with one combo. He once got a penta kill by pressing R. He is the most interesting champion in the world.
This sounds like that April Fool's champion spotlight.
Except this is not a joke.
Junkο5 votesI just finished a game where the enemy 3/2 Lee one combo'd our 9/1 Ashe, feelsbadman.
Astôlfo11 votesTo be fair, Ashe being 9 kills doesn't give her more survivability. Lee being 3 kills gets him items and damage.
dominusx2 votesthat's because all shitty adc mains go pure dmg and die to everything then cry their role is hard. adc is supposed to have 4 dmg items and 2 resistance items.
Nuparu1 votesmeh, even one is more than the average nowadays
dominusx2 votesbut adc is hard i need to do 1000 dmg per hit late game but have 200armor and magic resist too.
SSJTribe1 votesThat is the general idea, yeah. ADC is supposed to do the most damage, and the team is supposed to peel for them so they can get that damage off. If your marksman is dying at the beginning of teamfights... well, it's most likely the team's fault for not peeling.
dominusx2 votesor he is the average retard adc player that thinks he can frontline a Nautilous and Rengar.
Joe Mana6 votes[deleted]
l Helios l6 votesOh wait, you mean the sion with 4 warmogs and cinderhulk and an ability that deals damage based on the target that got kicked's max HP dealing a lot of damage? Who'd have thought...
Not offering opinions on Lee's balance, but just saying the video is pointless. You engineer a situation to show what you want.
Joe Mana3 votes[deleted]
l Helios l5 votesIt's not even being that guy man. It's like showing a video of old Veigar one-shotting someone with 1000 AP. You would just say "that's veigar" and no one would bat an eye.
If I got 1500 stacks on Nasus and one-shot an ADC, does that mean Nasus is broken?
I'm not arguing Lee isn't out of line, I agree he is, but my point is rather than that example offers no weight to any argument because it's artificial.
TurquoiseYoshi5 votes"Stay salty, my friends."
Glory to God2 votes : "pshhhh....nothing personnel....kid...xd"
MLDzXnRRR15 votes
Troy2426213 votesDon't worry, not like people routinely build it even without invisibility in the game. Totally fair it reveals invisibility and slows.
Wild Wes6 votesBut if he's blind how can he reveal them?
Chembaron Yamada40 votesHearing their steps, punching in that direction and hitting the enemy in the face. That makes the enemy's nose bleed and blood is not invisible. Then he shouts to his team mates "follow the floating bleeding nose!".
GG
shalexade4 votes
Where is your nose now?!? Or blood? Or GOD?
King of Mongoose2 votesIf he's blind, how can they hide themselves from him?
TheSingularity2 votesBy being very quiet.
Many blind people have learned to echo locate (bats, whales, dolphins and submarines do this) by making short sharp sounds and waitin for the echo. Many have also refined their hearing over all other senses as this goes hand in hand with echo location.
So he could in theory echo locate them (q) and proceed to one spell pop em
Troll for Trump6 votesStealth should be short duration, and occasional. Not every other second, as in the case of 
Otherwise yeah.
Partholonian2 votesBoth of those rely on ults, isn't that pretty much the definition of "occasional"?
Maybe those champs are OP because you don't have enough opportunities to force their ult and then take advantage of it being down, but you really can't say that they can use stealth constantly.
Karn Bishop5 votesAt first i thought you meant twisted fate, then i read your second sentence and like oh must be lee.
Chamuel852 votesUh, besides his Q hitting you randomly, isn't it kind of your fault if he hits you with his E to remove your stealth?
koreansmurf87518 voteseveryones down voting you so ill be the man and actually roast ur ass rather than down voting you without a comment like a pussy
name a ranged stealth champion beesides twitch if ur invis, u usually have to get close range, and lees e is ez to get ppl with
Chamuel851 votes
EDIT: Also the post was saying that 'it's not reliable because a popular champion can see stealth'. The ponit was PINKS can't show you. Makes it MUHC more reliable now anyway. I was always given the impression that anti stealth was a big part of Lee Sin the BLIND monk... because why does it matter if you cannot be seen by a blind person?
Forgot 
Junkο3 votesLee Sin E has 350 range to Vayne's 550 AA range, so she only just barely will be not hit most of the time, and even then she has to stop to AA in between tumbles so she is still vulnerable for a bit.
Chamuel851 votesYes, like I said, I thought part of Lee Sin is that stealth is useless against him (hence all that truesight)... which all of this was the same before and after the preseason changes to stealth. I mean might as well complain about Rammus when you're an ADC.
koreansmurf87512 votesHow often do you realistically see teemo for one (fair point tho I forgot)
And I've seen vayne get spotted with q into e WAAAAAY too many times and proceeding to get deleted quicker than Hilary's emails
Narasimha4 votesLee Sin E has 350 range to Vayne's 550 AA range, so she only just barely will be not hit most of the time,
I can go with a lot of things, but 200 range isn't 'barely'. Even 50 range is makes a huge difference.
Zero Skill Tank2 votes200 units is 'barely', when champion in question has two dashes of combined ranged 10 times bigger than this.
a special one2 voteswhat champ? sorry im dumb
Chembaron Yamada25 votes
koreansmurf875113 votessomething that triggered me was that i know his thing is the whole, seeing with sound thing but cmooon Lee sin LEE SIN LISTEN NOT SMASH THE GROUND AND SEE A CLOWN LEE MOTHA FUCKIN SIN
Chembaron Yamada5 votesOkay the "not smash the ground and see a clown" part killed me. xD And probably the clown too. ;A;
Monkey D Luffy2 votesI wish stealth/invis just didn't exist in general... only people who like it are the people who play stealth/invis champions
mikemcparty21 votesI wish yasuo didn't exist in general... only people who like him are the people who play him.
You could say this about literally anything.
Autrah Fang5 votesI wish yasuo didn't exist in general... only people who like him are the people who play him.
You could say this about literally anything.
i wish boots didn't exist in general. only people who like them are people who walk on 2 feet
Hammerpriest19 votesCassiopeia main detected.
Monkey D Luffy1 votesNo you couldn't.
mikemcparty7 votesI wish people named "Monkey D Luffy" didn't exist in general... The only people who like him are people named, "Monkey D Luffy"
Yes. Yes you can.
Monkey D Luffy1 votesYou can try to use it for anything but you've just proven to yourself that you can't.
MontethePython6 votesNo lol you can, Mike is right, even watch:
"i hate champions who don't have stealth/invis move-sets, non-stealth champs shouldn't exist in general, only people who like it are the people who don't play stealth/invis champions." You see it's not an argument Monkey D Luffy, it's just a meaningless statement. You can literally use it for anything
