Just lost my 1st game

Radiant Wukong··1 votes·243 views

as top lane Yorick in bronze.

Been trying to cheese my way out of bronze like I did on my original account by strictly playing hard counters and Yorick Illaoi MonkeyKing top lane.

The first time I made it out of bronze and all the way to D5 was back when I could cheese Darius top shortly after his release, Yorick before update (because he was still a beast) and jungle Udyr Tryndamere with the beast split push.

How could a person who consistently climbs his way out of bronze and shoots straight for gold lose in bronze while using Yorick top.

Answer = Shaco

This troll fuck literally waltz past control wards effortlessly! Even as Yorick, I can't push my lane at all because I never fucking know when Shaco will appear. I get no fucking warning or indication!

It also hit me that even if I had Illaoi, I still would have lost lane because of Shaco's fear + whatever CC all top laners have.

In higher elos, Khazix mains are capable of getting in lane without being detected by wards, by until I get out of bronze, I'm not going to bitch about him, yet lol

But the fact that no fucking items on Summoner's Rift grant "True Sight" is a fucking problem when you have a champion that channels 4.5 seconds of invisibility after a 400 range teleport!

When against other junglers like Kayn Zac Camille LeeSin you know you have to be a little more thoughtful with wards and communicate with your team about their location. I can easily deal with them.

Even Pantheon Nocturne Galio Shen are easily tolerable because 2 reasons. You get a visual/audio warning and they have to blow a freaking high CD ult just to get the element of surprise.

But Shaco's invisibility is fucking toxic! When I get back to gold+ I'll bitch about Kha'zix, too.

4 Comments

Mountain Warden1 votes

Just build tanky and you should be fine. Shaco takes a while to scale up to be able to delete you. Even if you build just a item 3742 he won't be able to delete you. You'll just be too huge. You may not be able to kill him since he's a slipper mofo, but at least he won't flat out kill you easily.

EDIT: I'm speaking for when you're playing Yorick .

Radiant Wukong1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mountain Warden,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lxezXmEy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-01T18:47:07.632+0000)

Just build tanky and you should be fine. Shaco takes a while to scale up to be able to delete you. Even if you build just a item 3742 he won't be able to delete you. You'll just be too huge. You may not be able to kill him since he's a slipper mofo, but at least he won't flat out kill you easily.

EDIT: I'm speaking for when you're playing Yorick .

The problem isn't Shaco by himself. The problem is being in lane fighting my opponent 1v1, then suddenly without triggering a ward or alerting me to his presence, I'm critically hit by him and now in a 1v2 situation.

Same goes for good Kha'zix with evolved R and item 3117, takes the bush path through jungle, then leaps over a wall and you're suddenly in a 1v2 situation.

It's just bad gameplay that RIOT needs to admit their (yes, ownership, not a typo) wrong and at the very least give us an option to buy a true sight ward. I'd even drop 150 gold per ward!

Mountain Warden1 votes

Well Shaco may need a bigger rework to make him work. A significant amount of his power budget is put into his invisibility. Taking that away from him would swing the pendulum too far the other way and make him trash tier.

Radiant Wukong1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mountain Warden,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lxezXmEy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-01T19:45:13.275+0000)

Well Shaco may need a bigger rework to make him work. A significant amount of his power budget is put into his invisibility. Taking that away from him would swing the pendulum too far the other way and make him trash tier.

I agree with you 100%. Which is why Shaco should have received rework attention well before Kog'maw, Yorick, Warwick, Xin Zhao, Darius, Aatrx, Cho'gath, Evelynn, etc.

He should have been one of the first champs looked at the second RIOT did that stupid ass "Invisibility vs Camouflage" update.

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