Facing a full AP comp means you Auto Win
Why is it still an even match if the enemy team goes full AD?
Why is it still an even match if the enemy team goes full AD?
Full ap does not mean an autoloss...
while what you say is true it probably lowers your chances a winning by a good amount. 1 Spirit visage and your laughing at all your enemies lol.
Spirit Visage meet Liandries and Rylais.
MR really doesn't do as much as you would think when the mage is building anti Mr.
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You will do significant damage.
not every champion could use this build effectively. only 300 mana and 10% CD. Although this would be a nasty build for Rumble and I believe this is his standard build kind of, but this would not work on most AP mid laners they would be out of mana too quickly.
even if they do build that
says hi
Thats what Liandries is for, since it does true damage Adaptive helm does jack to the shit.
doesn't do true dmg it does 1% max hp in magic dmg with some dmg amp tied to how long you are in combat with a champ
Keep in mind this isn't just ap mid laners, this is an AP team.
Picture Amumu Jungle, Anivia Mid, Rumble Top, Vladimir Bot, and say, Sona support. Give Anivia Blue Buff because Amumu just doesn't need it anymore for whatever reason,(seriously idk why but recently when i play him i never run out of mana even when i have no blue buff at all).
They would be able to with slight variations cover their own weaknesses and strengths while melting anyone who builds Mr, or those who don't.
(seriously idk why but recently when i play him i never run out of mana even when i have no blue buff at all).
regenerates up to 8 mana per second when you're in the jungle, based upon your missing mana. That's probably why.
Ok...
So thats kinda dumb I can regen faster than my W drains without blue.
I know hes in a bad spot but thats still kinda dumb.
regenerates up to 8 mana per second when you're in the jungle, based upon your missing mana. That's probably why.
this change was SOO good, i before that change i wasnt able to give my mid laner blue for nearly 3 years. now i can as long as i am not going to gank multiple times
Keep in mind this isn't just ap mid laners, this is an AP team.
Picture Amumu Jungle, Anivia Mid, Rumble Top, Vladimir Bot, and say, Sona support. Give Anivia Blue Buff because Amumu just doesn't need it anymore for whatever reason,(seriously idk why but recently when i play him i never run out of mana even when i have no blue buff at all).
They would be able to with slight variations cover their own weaknesses and strengths while melting anyone who builds Mr, or those who don't.
I said that being all AP just lowers your chances at winning not impossible. Getting all those items are expensive and is late game, meanwhile 1 MR item will help you against your whole team.
While full ad teams can kill armor stacked tanks better than full AP teams can kill mr stacked tanks, that is as uncommon a team line up as is not having a tank at all.
And really there is a lot of variance within damage types as to whether they are sustain or burst focused, and a burst focus (like most of the more popular AP champs) will generally be worse at tank killing. If an all ad team was just 5 assassins (and one of them wasn't rhaast) they are in no way beating an armor stacked team. It is just that a well peeled adc or other dps type champ can mow the tanks down late, and comparable AP options exist.
Because it isn't.
Unless your idea of "full AD" is a
, then the full AD team is completely reliant on getting and winning with an early lead, or on the enemy team not having a single champion capable of stacking armor.
Also, full AP teams tend to lack DPS. Full-AD teams can still have tanks, burst, and DPS, but there are very few AA-based AP champions.
and
are probably the only 2 dps ap champs
May we have a moment of silence for our one and only drain tank
who joined the cult of burst recently and now has no identity like every other burst champion.
Those two, and
(She actually has rather solid DPS versus structures, due to passive and Nashor's) and
.
and
as well, although it depends on how you build the Morg.
That's not a lot, and none of them are that popular. And only one of them (Teemo) is good against tanks and structures.
I suppose a case could be made for
as well, though, given his passive.
There are a lot more battle mages then that.

how did you forget all of these
everyone circle jerking against the OP but it's true
Armor is significantly less effective than MR.
Ignoring the many champs that do true damage + physical (which can't really be called pure AD) you have stuff like conqueror and AD champs usually have powerful auto attacks even if theyre casters, so they don't wait for cds.
But I think it's gotten better. It was worse before.
everyone circle jerking against the OP but it's true
Armor is significantly less effective than MR.
Ignoring the many champs that do true damage + physical (which can't really be called pure AD) you have stuff like conqueror and AD champs usually have powerful auto attacks even if theyre casters, so they don't wait for cds.
But I think it's gotten better. It was worse before.
yeah it's certainly gotten better.. in season 7. AD was so strong it it was almost BETTER to go full AD because of how broken itemization was
its not "AS" bad but the addition conqueror and the new
edge don't exactly help the matter.
how is full ad not an autolose?
rofl
and btw how did you manage to be full ap?
how is full ad not an autolose?
rofl
and btw how did you manage to be full ap?
if u are referring to my most recent game when i made this thread... that was indeed my inspiration for this thread, but it does not provide a good example. we would have lost that anyways my team was so bad, i gave up trying to win that about 25 min before we actually lost.
as for why we went full ap... idk i was 2nd pick.... no one hovered their champs but me. (another bad sign for champ select)
and my team was so awful anyways it wouldn't have mattered who they picked we would have lost anyways.
the fact that they even tried to pikc a full AP count and outside of the GP thier team built almost no MR and we got lost was becuase they were TERRIBLE
i mean we had viktor support and teemo ADC
that game we were going to lose anyways, being a full AP really had nothing to do with it. but what it did do was made me think that if we had a decent team but the enemy itemized properly against us we still would have been screwed. and that's what this thread was about
What is the point of this thread? Is full AD...bad? It is...so that's what you're saying, right?
What is the point of this thread? Is full AD...bad? It is...so that's what you're saying, right?
what im saying is an enemy team going full AD or ap means that u only need to build armor OR u only need to build MR
this should inherently give the other team a huge advantage because they dont need to buy differen items to maximize defence
when fcaing full AP
and AD champ can grab
or any combination of mr items along with any one mr tank items u want such as

and completely negate the MR while still going full damage
while if are trying to build vs full AD. it is so limited and stacking armor is so worthless that it barely sways the game in your favor at all.
where as if u were facing a full AP team.. u can completely shut them down with just a few mr items
Rip
ADC. 