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Melee Carry's

Zerenza··1 votes·435 views

Jax, Xin Zhao, Master Yi, Tryndamere and Yasuo. Melee champions that use auto attacks to destroy everything in their path no matter what it is and frequently carry games on their own because it's incredibly hard to build against them. The only item you can build against them is Thornmail and it frankly isn't good enough to stop them from completely destroying you just by right clicking and watching as they sip their tea.

The worst part about these champions is that for some reason, the second someone pics up one of these champs. They are an automatic jerk to their opponent, automatically bragging, telling the enemy what they should have done and genuinely being a jerk because they "rekt" their enemy.

These champions are historically terrible to play against, even if they aren't high on the list in terms of winrate, most people never really beat these champions, you just deal with them. There is not "Beating" them, just tolerating their gameplay pattern, because of this i wish that Thornmail would get a buff so it's actually a viable item to build against them.

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k wìx2 votes

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Jax, Xin Zhao, Master Yi, Tryndamere and Yasuo. Melee champions that use auto attacks to destroy everything in their path no matter what it is and frequently carry games on their own because it's incredibly hard to build against them. The only item you can build against them is Thornmail and it frankly isn't good enough to stop them from completely destroying you just by right clicking and watching as they sip their tea.

The worst part about these champions is that for some reason, the second someone pics up one of these champs. They are an automatic jerk to their opponent, automatically bragging, telling the enemy what they should have done and genuinely being a jerk because they "rekt" their enemy.

These champions are historically terrible to play against, even if they aren't high on the list in terms of winrate, most people never really beat these champions, you just deal with them. There is not "Beating" them, just tolerating their gameplay pattern, because of this i wish that Thornmail would get a buff so it's actually a viable item to build against them.

I generally disagree on some points. I generally play Support, Mid, and ADC. Lets go on a point by point basis:

  1. Armor and Health are the two statistics that you build to protect against them. You can follow that up with CC. I'd argue that the only one who needs a rebalance at this stage is Yasuo, and even then - he's not as nuts as everyone claims, he's just a bit overtuned. **If you think that those 2 stats are not enough to protect you from them, then you aren't looking at balanced scenarios. If Yi scores 3 kills early, and gets fed - your not going to be able to defend against him. **

  2. This is true of everyone, not just 'melee carries'. Learn who is fed, and remember that they are Dangerous. There will be people in every single game that are way stronger than you because they got fed. Now what are you going to do about it?

  3. Just because someone picks Yi or Jax, does not automatically turn them into a 'jerk'. You may have had some bad experiences, but again - has no bearing on your average Yasuo.

  4. I completely disagree with you - you sound salty as heck man. You can absolutely ruin a melee carries life by controlling him. Alistar+Lulu+Zilean = your not moving ever again. I'd suggest picking some champions with better cc tools.

  5. I agree with you about Thornmail - it's just not that fantastic of an item currently, and needs SLIGHT adjustments.

Meep Man1 votes

Kled can also be considered a Melee Carry in a similar sense to Xin Zhao

Zerenza1 votes

I basically based on whether they used abilties that buffed their auto attacks or abilities that were skillshots, kled could probably be considered a Melee carry i just forgot about him because they made his damage more tolerable. If your squishy you'll get one shot by anyone but for a tank you normally don't have to worry about getting killed by kled. Jax,Yi, Xin Zhao and Yasuo on the other hand are a different story, they shred tanks like it's nothing and one shot squishy's, i find the gameplay pattern overall unhealthy.

KvotheAdem1 votes

Kled can build in such a way that he'd demolish tanks. BOTRK/Cleaver dead tank.

The way your complaining is complete BS. ADC's can destroy any squishy from ranged with 2 AA's in the late game, isn't that game play pattern broken?

When I put it this way do you see how silly/stupid your arguement sounds?

Melee carries are CARRIES. So guess what, they have the ability to carry. I wonder why they are called Melee carries? Because they have carry potential, from what your saying, if we had things your way there wouldn't be a single Melee carry in the game and this whole game would be a boring shitstorm where all you do is build Tank top lane and peel for your Mid APC and bot ADC.

Jungling would mostly just be tank line as well, with Assassins remaining strong.

If melee carries didn't exist this game would be boring and I'd quit it faster then you could possibly imagine.

StealWolverine1 votes

item 3116 item 3047 item 3143 item 3022 are all highly effective against melee carries

Zerenza1 votes

I can understand Omen, the other's will simply let you kite, which doesn't always work well and not every champion can actually build Rylai's or Frozen mallet and reap the benefits.

Reikken1 votes

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The only item you can build against them is Thornmail

You're having problems with those champions because you think this is true. Thornmail is not good against them. See StealWolverine's post and add to that list item 3110.

Zerenza1 votes

That's the problem, it's supposed to be good against them. It's supposed to make it so that they hurt themselves while autoing you, but they just build full life steal anyway.

Spicy Rice2 votes

It's not a panacea against ad champions. If you build it early, it makes it elk from them to try to kill you, and it controls their lifesteal.

BluePolarizer1 votes

Melee carries are actually bad. They don't "deal with them", they absolutely destroy them. Your elo is too low to figure out how to destroy them. How come they aren't winning games often in plat+ or LCS?

Astôlfo1 votes

Coincidentally, every single one is incredibly squishy (with the exception of that cancerous tank Yasuo build which is getting neutered, thank god).

Also coincidentally, CCing a squishy target means you can near instantly kill them.

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