Kai'sa current state is just laughable, and sad

Rexxiee··3 votes·1,124 views

Garbage kit, garbage range, no plans on doing anything to fix her issues (basically whole kit + base range), in fact the designer said they cant increase her range because she is meant to be weak early for her "scaling".

Is this a bad joke? What scaling? Vayne can bully kai sa out of lane (LOL) and then scale infinitely times better, same about the rest of the adc champ pool, kai sa late game walks up to 500 range to hit a tank, gets maokai W'd and dies in the cc duration, wow what amazing scaling, ITS OK GUYS NOTHING WRONG WITH 5 HIT PASSIVE ON SQUISHY 500 RANGE CHAMP, not even mentioning the whole as steroid that forces you to stop autoing! LMAO.

I could keep going on here, her whole kit is riddled with problems and to top it off she gets that juicy 500 attack range, but she has no dashes out of her ult and no spellshield like sivir, so just why? Its not like she even has CC or a strong kit, why doesnt she have at the bare minimum, 550 range?

Shes so bad that she makes lucian look like a god tier adc, please just delete her and give me an actual playable champion with a working kit, it just sucks to be teased as an "adc that plays like vayne" then it turns out shes basically just vayne but made 10 times worse in every way possible.

It really sucks, i waited for another vayne like adc for so long to get this garbage, what a letdown.

15 Comments

Busty Demoness2 votes

Only thing I could think of that wouldn't be a super massive buff is allowing her Q to apply plasma to champions.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/jAOTqq1i-i-think-kaisa-needs-a-small-buff-to-her-q

I detail it here but the summary is based on how the damage is dispersed, it gives her a reason to isolate her target with Q and since her passive is AP based it won't be a double down increase in the damage.

TimeNeverChanges1 votes

give her a week or two lol stop posting that she is garbage. If she does worse than Lucian in two weeks I’ll agree with u. Then She will take Lucian’s spot as garbage adc.

Rexxiee2 votes

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give her a week or two lol stop posting that she is garbage. If she does worse than Lucian in two weeks I’ll agree with u. Then She will take Lucian’s spot as garbage adc.

Yeah because in 2 weeks, with no changes all of her problems and issue will magically go away!

Khristophoros4 votes

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Yeah because in 2 weeks, with no changes all of her problems and issue will magically go away!

Yes it's called people learning how to play her

rework trundle1 votes

Couldn't word it better. So many champions have a 30-40% winrate on release then climb around 50% after a few weeks.

Khristophoros1 votes

In a week or 2 shes gonna be known to be OP as fuck and I'm gonna bump this thread.

Daemonette1 votes

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In a week or 2 shes gonna be known to be OP as fuck and I'm gonna bump this thread.

Pretty sure you said the same thing about shadow Kayn on his launch. People QQ to much in PBE about her like they did with Shadow Kayne. Riot knee jerked and pre launch nerfed the hell out of her.

Khristophoros1 votes

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Pretty sure you said the same thing about shadow Kayn on his launch. People QQ to much in PBE about her like they did with Shadow Kayne. Riot knee jerked and pre launch nerfed the hell out of her.

I didn't but anyway kai'sa is already looking strong get with the times

Ragnaveil1 votes

Give it time, people are experimenting with builds to find the most optimal build for her. Her recommended isn't quite the best, but it works. The devs know something we dont if they say they wont buff her range, lets get that out of the way. I said that maybe giving her some type of a AD ratio on her passive somewhere could be useful. Not like a massive AD ratio, just something that is QOL, like a .05 or .025 ratio. I'm not a ratio expert, I will say that.

Daemonette1 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXRz8WN4nH0

I built that on her in live. Not as powerful as it was in PBE. No where near as powerful.

Onecimus1 votes

People complained like this about the Swain rework. Saying he would never be viable again. And he's sitting pretty good now.

Just have patience.

Rexxiee2 votes

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People complained like this about the Swain rework. Saying he would never be viable again. And he's sitting pretty good now.

Just have patience.

Swain got massive buffs last patch, hes actually broken now.

Kythers1 votes

Champion isn't op so she's garbage

the absolute state of league rn

Daemonette1 votes

You are right on her passive being bad. Pretty sure 3 shot penta kill Vayne has a higher AA range then her. I do not think she needs to be deleted. Changed up yes but not deleted. Mini rework and buffs is a must for her.

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