So you decided to Buff Ancient coin through gold generation and mana

Ancient Coin Unique Passive - Favor: Coin mana restore increased from 8% to 15% Unique Passive - Favor: Coin gold increased from 20 to 25

Some theories as a janna main: i get 200 gold everytime with coin as i upgrade it later since i need to rush ss before which means i now i will get 250 gold as i collected 10 coins

then, i get nearly 450 more gold when i upgrade it until the end of the game

Nomads Medallion Unique Passive - Favor: Coin mana restore increased from 8% to 15% Unique Passive - Favor: Coin gold increased from 30 to 40

which means i collected nearly 13 coins, and now i will get 520 gold for a total of 770 gold when before i had nearly 650 gold

and, you think that with 120 more gold, coin quest will make supports wanting to get it

so who will get coin with this? because she can't build anything else because of rank 3 ult asap

which means 1 more champ will take it because spellthief might be nerfed

i don't know if you're fine with this will anyone take 1 skill point over 700 hp shield/bonus ms? like literally who?

i just had someone telling me that will take it because of the mana, blitzcrank doesn't even end up oom in lane you can watch any high elo streams of blitzcrank it's true, all he does is staying near you to deny you and you're forced to back and wait minions because most of adcs/sup have 325 base ms, he will never use hook unless you take the risk to stay which no one does

not only this but shield+ shield+ shield+colossus shield+mana barrier will allow blitz to tank more damage than a toplane sion

why would you ever get coin? +1 skill point do not increase your base stats, +1 skill point do not improve passives like rakan heal, lulu passive bonus damage, or any passive that scales with levels rather than spell rank (like sona R)

+1skill point is the biggest noobtrap on supports that ever existed, they all do not care about levels they all need one spell to be maxed like janna E and then they're fine

but you can only upgrade your abilities after lvl 9, which means you already have your first spell maxed

and this pbe patch, showed that riot is fine with ancient coin quest

and they're fine, with nobody taking ancient coin except if it's broken instead of a better quest allowing for strategy [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]