Definitely Unpopular Opinion: General Expectations for Large Scale Reworks are too Unrealistic

Divewing··3 votes·375 views

This is gonna be dirty.

For the most part, people expect way too much from these large scale reworks.

From where I look at these reworks (mostly Champions I didn't play and still don't), it seems there is far too much emotion surrounding it.

Now I try to be understanding for this, but when it comes down to it, these reworks are for champions that are not simply chosen on a whim; they are chosen for VERY SPECIFIC REASONS.

But then people jump up in arms when the kit has so much as 1 ability changed and it is not simply just a visual upgrade.

The bottom line of this is game balance and health; if the rework cannot put the champion in a position where they can be balanced (note that I say can be, not instantly will be), then, and only then, should the rework be considered a failure.

Because to me Riot has kept the essence of each champion's FANTASY. And this is the important thing. Not the champion's kit, but their FANTASY. You can go on and on about how Warwick giving attack speed to his allies was "cool and unique", but did losing it impact his fantasy at all? Hell his ultimate was changed to be a skillshot, and it arguably is MORE thematic.

Now balance is another volatile subject, and I would certainly not say Riot has made perfect decisions regarding it, but to me, EVERY one of these more recent large scale reworks (Yorick, Poppy, Galio, Urgot, Taric) have been a success. Riot did the best they could with what they had.

Expecting more than that to me frankly sounds selfish (before you lash out at me for it, you would seriously sit there and say the health of the ENTIRE game is less important than keeping a kit that had clear issues that changing numbers would not resolve?)

Bring on the downvotes

4 Comments

Big Lincoln3 votes

Poppy and Galio sitting at trash win rates for a while each is really good balancing

way too soon to say anything about urgot

Ðelofasht1 votes

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Poppy and Galio sitting at trash win rates for a while each is really good balancing

way too soon to say anything about urgot

Yorick could use a slight tuning pass, making his walkers and Maiden use ward health methods that scale with ranks in either W or R. Urgot could be better since the changes in this last patch, have not really played him much yet.

Ahristocats2 votes

what did you expect to read from this guy? he legit reported my post when i said galio rework was garbage ROFL

removing unique utility in favor of knock ups and mobility, WHAT A SUCCESSFUL REWORK, who can be this ** to not see that they legit replaced a unique kit with a generic kit just for the sake of lcs, and for the sake of "oh fuck, i'm lazy don't want to find anything good just create gragas 2.0 please"

great rework for galio, old kit was a problem cuz his ult had too much power? LUL

galio old Q/W/E were one of the strongest spell in the game

Best princess EU1 votes

galio rework was not good

creating a generalist champion is not the goal of a rework

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