do something about control mages

Moody P··2 votes·1,309 views

For all the past ..3? Years now, just about every mage that's turned out to be too strong has been a control mage. Classic mages have been anywhere from mediocre to complete trash. The only exceptions I can think of right now would be Karthus (only because of Harvest), Vladimir, Ryze, and maybe Viktor if you want to debate on whether or not he's a control mage.

Control mages have basically the best of all world's; amazing utility, huge space control, good poke, still having good waveclear, still just as capable of 100-0 a squishy in one rotation while also having low CDs to whittle down tanks and bruisers, and most of them all have massive AOE crowd controls.

This subgroup clearly needs to be looked at because they've been the dominant mid lane picks for ages now and theyre still the best picks. Even traditional burst killers like Ahri opt into Glacial Augment and play like utility mages now. Mages who emphasize utility need to drop more of their carry and kill potential to make up for it; no different than other classes who have above average utility.

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Metal Janna5 votes

Zed not a control mage

Moody P2 votes

and not OP either

Metal Janna4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lWi8W3Y4,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-09T17:28:22.941+0000)

and not OP either

https://i.ibb.co/Q6CLqSh/image.png Nope not OP at any point. ...Despite being consistently popular AND above 50% WR.

Moody P1 votes

Yes. Glad we're on the same page

Kazekiba3 votes

Ahri Not a control mage Leblanc Not a Control mage Ryze Not a control mage Diana Not a control mage Graves Not a control mage Kassadin Not a control mage Neeko Not a control mage Rumble Not a control mage Zoe Not a control mage Vladimir Not a control mage

Lissandra Lux The only Control Mages that have been viable in like a year

Moody P1 votes

are you implying that Diana has been strong at all in recent time

Death by Glamour1 votes

Shes doing decent enough in toplane, likely as a counter to all the ranged

Ahri Baka2 votes

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Ahri Not a control mage Leblanc Not a Control mage Ryze Not a control mage Diana Not a control mage Graves Not a control mage Kassadin Not a control mage Neeko Not a control mage Rumble Not a control mage Zoe Not a control mage Vladimir Not a control mage

Lissandra Lux The only Control Mages that have been viable in like a year

Neither Lux is Lux is a burst mage like Ahri tho

Death by Glamour1 votes

all mages are burst mages nowadays :D

Kazekiba1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lWi8W3Y4,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-09T19:11:10.126+0000)

Neither Lux is Lux is a burst mage like Ahri tho

Shes Artillery/Control hybrid. Long range but also short range CC and areas of control with her E.

Death by Glamour3 votes

by control mages you mean who exactly?

lux is the only strong one currently

BoRnToKiLL6663 votes

and lux is strong with aftershock, because of aftershock lol

Lux

Moody P1 votes

still top tier without it

Moody P1 votes

taliyah is God tier rn both mid and jungle

"Current" has nothing to do with it, the only strong mages in the last 3 seasons are all utility and control heavy; orianna, syndra, taliyah, azir, aurelion, Viktor, Neeko, Morgana. classic mages have mostly been mediocre or terrible besides ryze (high elo only), swain pre-gut, and the ones who sit in support lanes like brand and zyra

obviously there's an ongoing problem when a control mage being dethroned is simply replaced with another

when was last time Annie was top tier? or veigar? Siege mages have been irrelevant since season 4, too

BoRnToKiLL6662 votes

Mages are the weakest in the current meta, tanks are beyond broken

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