Idk how can you guys subject yourself to solo q whole season and not go mad.

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Stopped playing solo q in april or may, because the season is garbage and you won/lost based on who has the biggest moron on the team. Today I played 2 games because of decay and I got teams that don't die 15 times a minute, won both of them, then got into series and ofc then I got teams that just die all the time. Like, can anyone still kiss riots ass and say this doesn't happen intentionally to make us grind more and more ? How the fuck can you tell me that every time I got into series from season 4, it was "chance" to get feeders on your team. C'mon. Thankfully, I quit solo q long before I went insane from this game. It's disgusting to play, every single god damn game there's a champ that does insane dmg and you die in 0.4 secs and you got "outplayed".

Do yourselves a favour and stop playing solo q, if all that you get from this game is sadness and frustration.

56 Comments

Juice49 votes

I'm a Diamond smurf and I failed promos to Gold 5 twice because the amount of feeders was RIDICULOUS.

I'm 100% sure the whole system is rigged. I got a guy who lost 13 out of his last 14 ranked games. The only games he won were Odyssey in his match history.

And if I dared call these players bad I'd get reported and chat restricted / banned

Gg wp :)

Trelania7 votes

It is not these players' fault that Riot's system throws them and you into the same match.

Snowman Arc5 votes

I played on my Silver 2 account Graves top vs Tryndamere. The Trynda was high elo smurf, the kind of 280cs at 23 minutes etc. My jungler inted on Trynda twice then flamed me for "troll picking Graves top", after he dived him with Trynda's R.

Game was unplayable till we lost eventually. Seriously, end of the season is always super cancerous to play. 50% of the players are smurfs, and the others are inters and trollers because they don't care.

Lazy Grandpa11 votes

play meta/braindead/cancer champs so you always get to have fun, and even if you don't they'll feel worse for having to play against the same overpowered/broken/overloaded shit on a bi-weekly, monthly or annual rotation every game in a row.

atleast thats how i felt when i had to play against the shit like jhin perma 1000ms 10000damage, kaisa by being able to do literaly everything, aatrox for a while in my own lane, darius right now in my honest opinion. graves, rhaast kayne, zoe a while back, etc etc. oh and irelia. because they all inevitably end up fed on the enemy team. sometimes i get to be lucky and be on that team. i dont get enough bans to get rid of all that shit.

apparently i'm a masochist, since i keep playing and doing it to myself.

WAZZZUP5008 votes

But what if playing good champs makes me feel like a scumbag?

Screw jax, im sticking to el mordekaiser

Also rip my chances in ranked bcause of it, looks like im just playing norms.

Lazy Grandpa2 votes

I feel ya! last time i saw a mordekaiser was in aram when i played it roughly 2 months ago. i main tryndamere, even though he basically gets hard countered by the simplest slow atleast if they fail then tryndamere can often just walk all over them. you have it worse than me, i feel closer to you already bro. i wouldn't mind playing mordekaiser some more but seems like he'd just blow up in this meta, atleast tryndamere gets to live for 5 whole seconds

Elkington VI1 votes

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play meta/braindead/cancer champs so you always get to have fun, and even if you don't they'll feel worse for having to play against the same overpowered/broken/overloaded shit on a bi-weekly, monthly or annual rotation every game in a row.

atleast thats how i felt when i had to play against the shit like jhin perma 1000ms 10000damage, kaisa by being able to do literaly everything, aatrox for a while in my own lane, darius right now in my honest opinion. graves, rhaast kayne, zoe a while back, etc etc. oh and irelia. because they all inevitably end up fed on the enemy team. sometimes i get to be lucky and be on that team. i dont get enough bans to get rid of all that shit.

apparently i'm a masochist, since i keep playing and doing it to myself.

I feel you with Graves. I just hate seeing him jungling on the enemy team, he literally has no weak points. No, but let's nerf Trundle some more.

Laura ß9 votes

Im currently playing on my alt account and I dont care about winning or getting demoted, Im having a blast. Ranking is what makes you hate the game

Snowman Arc1 votes

I pick whatever the fuck I feel like on my secondary account and it's really fun, even if I get complete trolls and inters. I still can't stand flamers, though.

Tomoe Gozen2 votes

You sound like a troll/inter to me, to be honest. You can't play whatever you want in any role and expect to do good or even for your team to simply accept the fact they have higher chances of losing. No one wants to play with a person like that, someone who just doesn't care if he wins or loses and intentionally doesn't want to play something even remotely acceptable for that lane.

Kledy McKledFace8 votes

Ranked make me wish Riot would get DDOS for an entire week like the good old times. Back then they had to work for their community or would get shutdown for an entire week :D. PRetty much they last time I had some fun at this game (season 4)

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Ranked make me wish Riot would get DDOS for an entire week like the good old times. Back then they had to work for their community or would get shutdown for an entire week :D. PRetty much they last time I had some fun at this game (season 4)

season 4 was the best.. hands down,, the masteries were perfect,, there were VERY few balance issue and the limited number there were were easily banned out, everyone had counterplay, and there was no major damage creep or one class that was OP. just one or two champs each patch that needed ot be fixed and they could always be banned

Tomoe Gozen1 votes

season 4 was the best.. hands down,, the masteries were perfect,, there were VERY few balance issue and the limited number there were were easily banned out, everyone had counterplay, and there was no major damage creep or one class that was OP. just one or two champs each patch that needed ot be fixed and they could always be banned

There's so much bias in this comment that it has its own gravitational pull and can be classified as a planet.

Illabethe1 votes

What he said is generally true. Life steal builds were still viable on junglers.... Tanks were manageable by Botrk of that day, because it did % damage AND an on proc life steal/slow...... Zephyr made non dashers viable. Mages with long range weren't as toxic and had less mana replenishment, which result in pauses that lasted the entire game where you could kill them. Now.... Xerath can miss 70% of his kit and still do enough damage to eradicate a team and prevent them from reaching him, and have 60% of his mana left.

We didn't have a lot of wall travelers, or a 1 shotting Graves.

Morgana was actually the definition of a complex champion.

You didn't have to deal with team invincibility, and Nasus didn't get a .5 second Siphoning Strike when on Ult.

Top lane Bruisers weren't building lethality. They were building Armor, and very rarely.... crit..... which made them far more predictable and manageable. You didn't have to worry about Garen shredding you down to almost no Armor at all.

Health regeneration was actually a useful stat. You could build a build around it and it served a similar purpose to life steal, but generally were items that weren't offensive, so there was a tradeoff.

You do realize..... people generally don't complain about many pre Season 4 champions. They complain mostly about season 7/8 champions or champion reworks.

Drakes didn't make of break the game.

You could actually defend a base push.

Bounties weren't turning 1 major killer into a 1 man winner; they were rewarding the whole team if they contributed. (The only game I ever 1 manned in Season 4 was an Udyr 36/0/6 score, in which I literally 1v5'd while my team int fed 32 kills. I had time in between the kills to push turrets alone....... and yes. That was a life steal build. I got rewarded for going sustain. Now only adcs get that).

Supports didn't have a defined role in the sense of an income, or being much more than a 5th wheel. Now they can be a 5th carry.

Tomoe Gozen1 votes

Morgana was the definition of a complex champion

I mained Morgana and the only thing you can consider "complex" about her is your Q predictions. Her gameplay is not complex one bit because nothing in her kit allows her to be a skill expressive champion, given how immobile she really is. And the only skill she has that does something on range is Q. Her W is basically either a farming tool or something you can couple with your Q.

Zephyr made non dashers viable.

Zephyr was such a niche purchase that the only use its ever had, was when you were selling your boots in the super late game and replacing them with it. That's it. Zephyr was never an item you'd consider unless there was literally nothing else to buy due to full item builds. And games were never dragging out that long in majority of cases.

Mages with long range weren't as toxic and had less mana replenishment, which result in pauses that lasted the entire game where you could kill them. Now.... Xerath can miss 70% of his kit and still do enough damage to eradicate a team and prevent them from reaching him, and have 60% of his mana left.

Nope. Xerath did that before and his passive (proccing it on champs), allows him to replenish his mana on the double double instead on a minion. If he is never in range of an AA, spamming his spells is not ideal because all of them have a high cost, given he has a lot of range and scaling damage on them. Missing your stun makes you a sitting duck because then the skills you have are not sure hit and the enemy can fuck you up (your ult isn't something you can fire in a 1v1 skirmish).

And let me remind you that in S4, Xerath had a "stun" that marked your champion and that any of his spell procs would trigger it into an unavoidable 100-0 combo. So the mere threat of a stun would zone you out of any interaction with him. His mini rework changed his "stun to none" combo to be far more manageable and he is now rewarded with a longer stun if he can snipe you from his range, not his melee danger zone. His W now is that he had on his ult while his W before was a root that increased his range and spell pen.

I used Xerath to obliterate team Twisted Treeline games since he was so fucking broken that dealing with him was never an option unless you had a rush team and could bypass his initial stun threat.

Drakes didn't make of break the game.

They don't do that now either. Drakes in earlier seasons actually awarded 300 gold to the entire team, which made contesting them a fucking chore if one team could always just sit on the objective and farm it reliably while the other team had to sit and watch. Teams usually didn't fight in lanes unless it's drake spawning, which meant 2-3 free drakes and you could avoid unnecessary lane fighting. And oh boy, every drake spawn was met with a bot lane fight usually breaking out because that was the objective that was the most important for getting an easy lead.

Top lane Bruisers weren't building lethality. They were building Armor, and very rarely.... crit..... which made them far more predictable and manageable. You didn't have to worry about Garen shredding you down to almost no Armor at all.

Tip lane bruisers aren't building Lethality now either... Do you realize that if you get pure damage as a melee bruiser, you will get blown up super fast? Bruisers now (and juggernauts) build TriForce, Sterak's and BC as their primary items. Unless your name is Jayce. He can make it with a Youumu's and potentially Edge of Night.

Bounties weren't turning 1 major killer into a 1 man winner; they were rewarding the whole team if they contributed.

Uh, no. I remember the days when the fucker who got fed was solokilling everyone and chasing kills and winning games single handedly. This is impossible with today's team standards and even now, Riot made bounty changes was back to be funneled more into the killer and less into the assisting teammates. And for the pre-season, they're changing gold bounties again that it reflects your farm as well meaning that ,for example, proxy Singeds with 0/15 and 300 farm aren't worth 15 gold and destroy you as if they're 15/0 (which they are in gold but not KDA).

You didn't have to deal with team invincibility

Tank meta was a thing back then. That was team invincibility for ya. And no, people didn't have many ways to deal with tanks, especially not mages. And Marksmen were basically forced into BorK, where most of them weren't even synergizing with the item (except for Vayne).

We didn't have a lot of wall travelers

Every champion with a dash, jump or blink could "wall travel". This wasn't Riot's invention after Season 4. This was always in the game. Today we have champions that have a dash but cannot jump walls (Galio, Urgot, Ornn) and Riot didn't stop giving these abilities to some new champs either. And Plants. They've maybe contributed to the mobility in the jungle but in my opinion, this is way better since even a Dashless champ can counterjungle your ass if they plan out their escape route. Before, only champions that could reliably get out via a dash would even attempt such a feat. Everyone else risked getting their ass collapsed upon, even if the enemy team responded late.

From the start of Season 4, there's only 12 new additions with unconditional mobility on basic abilities that can traverse walls. And before that, there were 34 wall jumping champs (with unconditional mobility). Even more if you count champs like Noc, Kat, Rengar, Jax, etc...

ModCaptainMårvelous6 votes

There are two types of League players in high ranking solo queue:

The absolutely madmen who refuse to ever accept being placed lower than Rank 1 who will grind out matches even to their detriment. They are already mad. (T1) vs. The physical embodiment of chill who cannot be phased by any sort of feeding, trolling or any negative event. Their sanity meter is always at 100% (QT)

Towboat4216 votes

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There are two types of League players in high ranking solo queue:

The absolutely madmen who refuse to ever accept being placed lower than Rank 1 who will grind out matches even to their detriment. They are already mad. (T1) vs. The physical embodiment of chill who cannot be phased by any sort of feeding, trolling or any negative event. Their sanity meter is always at 100% (QT)

implying that the 4fun crowd of players are better than players who actually want to play the competetive mode for what i was made for.

Starcraft243ver5 votes

I'm actually enjoying the ranked.

If you understand it's a game and you set your goals to "improving with every single game" instead of "winning every single game", you end up climbing and every game, win or lose, is a win from your goals perspective.

saltran2 votes

+1 for me even though I'm low elo, lets see if I'm able to reach Plat before season ends, I'm near.

Tomoe Gozen6 votes

Not a lot of players look at Ranked that way. Because the moment you're losing, the team doesn't try to play a bit conservatively or consider other options but they continue to do the same thing over and over again, until the gold difference is massive and a loss is inevitable.

I don't care if i win or lose because i want games to feel like that me and my team tried our damnest to win to the very end. But in all my years of playing, i've only had a handful of games that felt like that. It's always someone that feeds and gives up or sees someone else just have a crappy game and decides that the best course of action, is to be a disabordinate idiot and engage in a stupid argument instead of focusing on playing the game.

Illabethe1 votes

For me..... the disabordinate idiots generally declare the game over, spam surrenders right in the middle of every fight, and pretty much either afk farm or int feed the rest of the game.......

If only we were so lucky for them to just be "arguing."

(The arguers generally are trying to win but have very little time to communicate, so the messages are sharp, and direct)

Starcraft243ver1 votes

In most of my games people fight till the end.

And I've got a LOT of comesback. (I also have a lot of throws :) )

http://recordit.co/PRc1E9M9IE

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Starcraft243ver

I'm yet to see a "gold difference so massive loss is inevitable".

https://i.imgur.com/fujDdoA.png

they were ahead by 6k5, we ended up ahead by 8k5. We won 15k more gold than they did in 6 minuts, and starting way behind.

senior evil5 votes

can you even call it solo? half the times it is just duos > .>

5050BS6 votes

This is why many have called for a TRUE soloQ and then a Duos/Trio Q and a full 5 man Q

A team of 5 soloQ vs two Duos and a soloQ is not a balanced matchup. If ANYTHING the LP gains loss should account for this and give the Duos less and the Soloist more.

MadNoff5 votes

Agreed. Whichever economist/statistician/actuary developed the matchmaking algorithm, needs to revise it.

aezens4 votes

Obviously you don´t know how lol is suposed to work. If you really want to climb you have to bypass the matchmaking system. Either by playing with friends or the seasonal overpowered stuff. You don´t even need to lern a lot of different champions the pool rotation is quite repetitive. Maybe buying some skins can role the dices in your favour who knows ;D.

If you want some "friendly" competetive games however you can play whatever you want .. almost. I just don´t like normal games because they arn´t really challenging and even more onesided then current ranked games most of the time.

Sexy Jack Rabbit4 votes

Recently had a draven go 2/24 in my promos recently. We managed to drag him through the mud and win the game. Yet he's still permitted as much LP as me for THAT?!

I was so angry.

ValyrianBlade2 votes

The system isn't rigged. It really depends when you play.

There honestly feels like there are different ranks for different times of day or different days of the week. Or at least really different play styles.

When I used to be able to play during the day (i.e. when most people would be at work/school) I found there were way fewer toxic people/trolls. I also find the same early on weekend mornings.

Late evenings or weekends later in the afternoon? Awful. Those games were like a coin flip.

Whether it's a different style of play (all or nothing) or just trolls idk. However, when you get to the end of the season it obviously gets much worse as EVERYONE tries to play more to rank up on time, which results in these groups that normally rank up pretty separately from each other suddenly playing together, causing chaos.

GripaAviara1 votes

It's all luck.

I mean sure, you could be mega good and maybe win, but then again if you would be mega good no chance you would end up in tiers like silver. And that's not even the point, is not like ppl want or claim to be high diamond tier, that doesn't justify a X tier game being trash

For example I know I'm not better than gold, but it's simply retarted to lose 6 games in a row (just now) because the teams were laughably imbalanced

GripaAviara2 votes

I did go mad.

Form an Honor 4+ I'm a walking toxic piece o' garbage that fell so low to even get a 14 day ban.

DeracadaVenom1 votes

Even when I do get a team they always crash.. U CAN DO IT ZOMBIE 5 MORE GAMES OF 20 MINUTES

Jinzo Torrance1 votes

You don't give a shit

HungryAngry2SPP1 votes

Meh, I'm fine. Ranked it's just normals with less, but more aggressive trolls.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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Meh, I'm fine. Ranked it's just normals with less, but more aggressive trolls.

uh ranked definitely has more trolls then normals.

Clockwork Mouse1 votes

I won all my game in my rank, got to my series, and then had a lulu ADC troll and then another game that was just flaming non-stop. Feels like I am in some kind of sitcom at times.

Summonah123691 votes

Cus everyone denies my queue invites.

hält die fresse1 votes

my favorite is when someone who isnt high diamond has hundreds upon hundreds of games decides to talk down to me.

i laugh so fucking hard

Krully1 votes

got to gold 5 stopped sadly flex put me in plat 5 and to stop mmr decay i played but kept on winning and now get 27 lp a win??

Resolution1 votes

Honestly. The time of the day you play at really helps. If you play before school ends the games are alot less bitchy.

If you play after midnight the chances of getting smurf coin flips doubles. As alot of the hardcores play at night.

I found if I played just after noon hour, my games were more consistent.

5050BS1 votes

See this is BS and Riot should beable to take this into account. Time of day should not have any affect on my LP gain.

If Riot knows that after school is out games turn to shit then LP gain losses should change to account for the total shit fest they are.

If late at night has a lot of Smurf Duos then again the game should account for this in LP gains and losses.

If you are vs a Smurf then you should gain a ton of LP if you win and lose very little if you lose.

Raiyza1 votes

Thats why we stop at g5.

5050BS1 votes

Getting into a Promos for me is almost 100% chance of getting a troll team. Often is is flat out an afker. Its like Riots MMR system finds a bad player and makes sure you get them on your team if you are in a promo.

Mathgodpi1 votes

Hmm, you got 36 upvotes. If I post basically the same thing I would get 36 downvotes...

Owl Puff1 votes

Tbh I stopped caring as much as I used to and it got a lot easier to play ranked. Of course I don't play it that much but it's much less stressful than it used to be. Also easier to deal with feeders since I have that "mute and focus on yourself" mentality.

Heos001 votes

''You won/lose based on who has the biggest moron on the team'' LOOOL. I got diamond 5 just by luck, no joke, i felt like i didn't deserve it but i still climbed to it because i got carried like 5-6 games. Then i started to play pretty well when i climbed to diamond 4 and then i started getting matched with people who played at like plat 5 level and i ended up demoting lol Entire climbing for me its like (as adc) not feeding the lane and pray for a jungle who carries ganks you, having a good engage support or just pray for a long enough game for 3 item powerspike (which isn't the case in most of games). Better DuoQ

Nøctμrne1 votes

Have you seen my massively downvoted posts, I have gone insane this season.

Trias0001 votes

I simply don't consider it a matter of life and death

Xeronic1 votes

What if you’re the moron on your team?

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

FridgeD1 votes

just quit the game. i had a 5 month break and i feel really good. after that you can still play on, if you want to. but a lot of the game is just grind addiction. free yourself from this and you are fine. playing ranked after ranked match for a shitty victorios skin, burning your time and mentally hurting yourself cant be a goal at all. i was plat over the last seasons and i invested min 4000h and a lot of money in this game. still, i feel way better now, just watching vids of my favorite youtubers/streamers and worlds. you took a break. if it doesnt feel better, take another 1.

DragonShea1 votes

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Stopped playing solo q in april or may, because the season is garbage and you won/lost based on who has the biggest moron on the team. Today I played 2 games because of decay and I got teams that don't die 15 times a minute, won both of them, then got into series and ofc then I got teams that just die all the time. Like, can anyone still kiss riots ass and say this doesn't happen intentionally to make us grind more and more ? How the fuck can you tell me that every time I got into series from season 4, it was "chance" to get feeders on your team. C'mon. Thankfully, I quit solo q long before I went insane from this game. It's disgusting to play, every single god damn game there's a champ that does insane dmg and you die in 0.4 secs and you got "outplayed".

Do yourselves a favour and stop playing solo q, if all that you get from this game is sadness and frustration.

Riot is feeding of people hope for better balance. That is not something that will help the game in the long run. Brendan and Marc already got their money and don't care about the game nor do they care about people that have a love for the game. Face it. when devs have no love for the game they make it will go into decline and people that have played it for a long time are gonna become junkies for the game, always hoping ranting and complaining about a game that they love that has gone to shit. Something they too had a hand too.

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