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Garen Rework Suggestion

Xavanic··3 votes·698 views

I'm sure we all know....Garen is in a VERY poor state, providing very little CC and damage with his ult just being a subpar version of darius's, so I would like to suggest a possible rework to bring him back (I really don't like this champ, but keeping him in the dirt is kinda rude)

Passive: Demacian Fury: After using an ability Garens next basic attack will deal 15-150 (+4-8% of the targets max hp) as true damage Demacian Fervor: Garens attacks and abilites against targets apply stacks Demacias Fervor, Increasing damage taken by that target (from all sources) by 2% per stack (max 5 stacks)

Q Decisive Strike: CD: 15/ 13/ 11/ 9/ 7 sec, Range: 350 Active: Garen leaps to his target and slams down his blade on his next auto attack (think Illaoi W), dealing 50/75/100/125/150 (+ 2/3/4/5/6% of his targets max hp) as physical Damage, and silencing them for 2 seconds /// Fervor Effect: If the target has 5 stacks of Demacian Fervor, Stuns instead

W Demacian Pursuit: CD: 30 sec, Range: 1000 Active: Garen Pursues the Nearest enemy champion Gaining 15/20/25/30/35% Movement speed when moving toward that target for the next 5 seconds, Also gains 15/30/45/60/75% slow resistance for the duration /// Fervor Effect: If the target has 5 stacks of Demacian Fervor, The duration is doubled to 10 seconds Passive: Garens basic attacks against champions reduce the cooldown of this ability by 2 seconds

E Judgement: CD 20/ 17.5/ 15/ 12.5/ 10 sec, Range: 275 (cooldown starts after the end, reduced by the remaining duration if cancelled) Active: For the next 4 seconds Garen Spins in a circle hitting targets 5-15 times (based on Level) for 25/30/35/40/45 (+ 20/22/24/26/28% of AD) per hit and gaining 20% movement speed over the duration, In addition Garen heals for 4% of his missing hp per second for every champion hit /// Fervor Effect: If the target has 5 stacks of Demacian Fervor, deals 2% of the targets max hp as bonus true damage

R Demacian Justice: CD 120/ 110/ 100 Active: Garen unleashes the full power of Demacia on his target dealing 20-40% of the targets missing hp as magic damage based on level, If Demacian Justice executes its target Garen becomes empowered Allowing him to cast Demacian Justice once again (think Darius ult) /// Fervor Effect: If the target has 5 stacks of Demacian Fervor, This ability deals true damage instead

His ultimate I'm not really satisfied with, but give me your thoughts on this redesigned kit for Garen

12 Comments

Icathian Creed2 votes

Garen? In a poor state? I hope you are drunk or something. This champ was designed to be simple since it was one of the original champs. Limited tech and limited ideas of the time is the reason. But Garen is far from being in a bad spot unless you are above bronze and just know how to fight one. His kit has a silence (few of these exist anymore), an autoattack reset, aoe waveclear, movespeed bonus, general tankiness + some extra on his w, insane health regen that isnt on a long cooldown like volibear and mundo, and an execute that can do true damage if he ults the right target.

In my opinion, his kit is simply overloaded, and would need a proper rework and a complete identity change just to fix him.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Garen's kit? Overloaded?

Hue.

Xavanic1 votes

????

l Dárius l1 votes

Not overloaded lol. He has no cc in any way and the only thing he can provide for his team is a silence on a high priority target. He does less damage than his near identical twin Darius with the only real difference between the 2 being the fact that darius can fuck up and garen cant.

SUPERMOVA1 votes

garen overloaded ?? not bad spot ??

If you try playing Garen outside of even gold you'll see how tough it is lmao

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

i'd say most new players usually start with garen because he is the easiest of all the starter champs,

his rework would really have to keep him as that starter champ, but if he gets one it really needs to make picking him seem more enjoyable because a lot of people I know that start playing league usually quit because its not friendly to new players

Xavanic1 votes

this kit keeps his skill floor low, but gives him a higher skill ceiling

Ralanr1 votes

How does this gain Demacian fervor?

Xavanic1 votes

Basically when he hits with anything he gains Demacian fervor, think of it like his version of darius bleed

l Dárius l1 votes

These numbers looked fucked, and like a better version of darius without the ability to miss skillshots. It looks interesting though, and more fun than current garen. Numbers need serious tweaking though.

Xavanic1 votes

Yeah, its just a rough draft Also Darius Is more orientated on slowing and DoT, while Garen Would be more about going fast and getting into the fight, in addition Garen can't just apply five stacks of demacian fervor while darius can with his bleed, they still have differences with the main exception being their ults

l Dárius l1 votes

Darius' bleed does not apply noxian might if thats what your saying. His bleed is simply an after effect of damaging someone with his axe BLADE. When he damages someone with the axe blade he gets 1 out of 5 stacks and applies the bleed. At 5 stacks he gets noxian might.

And darius is less dot and slow and more get his ad steroid and then try to kill someone else. Typically darius wants to get 5 stacks on the easiest target (normally a tank) and then move on to a high priority target and use his newly found ad steroid to kill them quickly, using his q to heal as he dives into the enemy team.

If he cant do this he needs try to even get 5 stacks and not die hoping his team can kill the people he cant.

This is assuming the enemy team is playing perfectly and all 5 have perfect positioning and know what to do about darius and dont make a mistake- normally if he gets 5 stacks and can do what he is supposed to do without a problem

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