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I'm not kidding anymore, all it take a stupid Q + 70 Dark havest stack+ 2 leth from 550 range = dead as squishy.
Yet 
the only problem ?
Edit: My post doesn't say that wukong and other assassin isn't problem, but more of saying that both draven and mf need of nerfs just all other assassin
Rexxiee4 votesYou can see MF coming, shes a short range ADC with no escapes and pretty much any diver/assasin can 1 shot her.
Wukong stealths then gap closes and 1 shots you.
ValiantKiller2 votesYou can see MF coming, shes a short range ADC with no escapes and pretty much any diver/assasin can 1 shot her.
Wukong stealths then gap closes and 1 shots you.
Still that damage is just beyond dumb, i didn't defend wukong here but saying that damage is dumb
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesWhat if both are a problem?
ValiantKiller1 votesWhat if both are a problem?
Well my post doesn't say wukong isn't problem but aiming that mf is problem too along draven.
Hexs Fortune2 votesWell my post doesn't say wukong isn't problem but aiming that mf is problem too along draven.
Immobile ADC with no hard cc, no hard engage, no stealth and no "defensive get out of jail free cards" means her power budget can accommodate more raw damage.
ValiantKiller1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lQdUZlVJ,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-08-12T22:30:43.433+0000)
Immobile ADC with no hard cc, no hard engage, no stealth and no "defensive get out of jail free cards" means her power budget can accommodate more raw damage.
Wait your logic say that is legit to 1 shot someone from range 550+ and that is fine ?
SithesisLord3 votesIf most of your champion's kit is damage, yes.
All MF has is range and damage.
Her utility is minimal and her mobility low as well as conditional.
ValiantKiller1 votesIf most of your champion's kit is damage, yes.
All MF has is range and damage.
Her utility is minimal and her mobility low as well as conditional.
then why people cry about talon and zed?
SithesisLord1 votesBecause they can miss their stuff and still quickly kill you because Duskblade and Electrocute exist, and Ignite is overbuffed.
MF isn´t one shotting you without Q bounce unless she's full Lethality and has a Stormrazor, along with a hefty amount of DH stacks.
Plus, you can stay away of the very narrow and short cone that is her Q bounce range.
Also, Talon and Zed's mobility is far from low and the conditions are CDs only.
ValiantKiller1 votesBecause they can miss their stuff and still quickly kill you because Duskblade and Electrocute exist, and Ignite is overbuffed.
MF isn´t one shotting you without Q bounce unless she's full Lethality and has a Stormrazor, along with a hefty amount of DH stacks.
Plus, you can stay away of the very narrow and short cone that is her Q bounce range.
Also, Talon and Zed's mobility is far from low and the conditions are CDs only.
You just want to defend that stupid damage, fine then defend it. But don't come and cry for balance team about all the creep damage that is going on in this game, enjoy.
AnAggravatedPimp1 votesthen why people cry about talon and zed?
Because they're both mobile as hell and in Zed's case has 1 easy to use escape that doubles as an extra damage source pre 6. Talon can Assassin's Creed in and out of combat and just not care the enemy flash, then both can nuke you from 100-0 in an instant before shadow/flipping away.
MF on the other hand deals damage but that's about it. She is conditionally mobile at best and any beefy enough champ or strong enough burster will end her. Her ult Roots her, making her one easy snack.
rawiazam11 votesjudging by the lvoe trap stacks and time to die(14 sec) i can assume that she hit u in more than one q
ValiantKiller2 votesjudging by the lvoe trap stacks and time to die(14 sec) i can assume that she hit u in more than one q
Nope it was the bounce of Q with 806crit + the rest of damage, the time to die cause the poke of Olaf Q.
Beatrice falls1 votesBiased ADC mains believe it's ok for her to be a ranged 
because "she's an AD caster and not an ADC" [slayer-jinx-catface]
ValiantKiller2 votes[{quoted}](name=Beatrice falls,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lQdUZlVJ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-12T21:30:22.327+0000)
Biased ADC mains believe it's ok for her to be a ranged
I know right ? Like i'm wukong main and i don't mind all of this nerfs, but god that damage is beyond dumb for ranged champion and that is fine ?She legit killed me before i can react yet assassin are the problem ?
