100 Degree's of Tilt: Ticking Time Bomb Champions.

Zerenza··2 votes·689 views

Nasus Veigar

Now i know what all of you are thinking "Fucking noob learn to play agains them, their shit blah blah blah their not good in challenger your just bad blah blah blah". And i just don't understand what you mean, i'v tried everything, murdering them early game, going 8/1 against them in 20 minutes. You know what happens, every, single, time they get fed off of farm. These two champions are possibly the worst designed champions in the game, the reason why is because playing against either of them put's a giant weight on the laner's against them and the entire team as a whole, a "Time Bomb" if you will.

The reason why is because after a certain point in the game, Veigar can 100-0 you with one ability, Nasus is unkillable and deals 1000 damage per Q on a 2 second cooldown, if you do not keep these two completely out of the game for 30 minutes then end the game before then, they will get fed. Somehow, they'll get fed, the amount of stress these two champion's put on the people against them is absurd.

Out of all the champion's that i hope to get reworked one day, it's these two, infinite stacking needs to be harder to do, it's much harder to deny CS than it is to deny kills, Veigar getting 1 AP for every single CS he kills with an ability and EVERY SINGLE TIME HE HITS A CHAMPION WITH AN ABILITY is absurd. A veigar with 200 CS at 40 minutes if he's poked someone about 200 times(not that hard) will have 400 extra AP, not counting his item's. A nasus with 200 farm at 40 minutes will have 600 extra damage on his Q, not counting Sheen procs.

Keep in mind 200 CS at 40 minutes is actually really fucking bad, that's 5 CS per minute, it's recommended to have at least 8 CS per minute. Challenger player's often have 10 CS per minute. Now, i know we hear the term "Free" a lot on the boards but these two are the only champions that get literally "Free" stats for doing absolutely nothing.

At least Kindred has to kill actual champion to increase her attack range, at least Cho'Gath has to kill champion to stack his Feast. At least their infinite stacking is difficult, it should also be noted that Bard's infinite stacking is on a timer, meaning he can't stack it as much as he want's to at any given time, chimes only spawn at a set rate making his Infinite Stacking fair.

I'm sorry to all the Veigar and Nasus main's, i don't hate the champion's they just frustrate me to know end, it feels like no matter how well i play against them all that happens is they outscale me and either one shot me or become unkillable, then one shot me.

6 Comments

Fraggleroc2 votes

It fulfills the fantasy of that particular playstyle for some players. I'm one of them. I like to slowly toil thru bad early game to finally become strong later on.

To counter Nasus, try watching Dong Haup's video on it. He has the right idea. The gist is to basically Ignore Him and catch him when he overextends (along with your teammates). Don't even bother to solo him past mid game. Think about RESOURCES spent to try to kill him.

For Veigar- If u can, don't build a team full of squishy champs and that's about it.

Zerenza1 votes

What if nasus never over extends? In top lane it's rather easy to lock a wave, not to mention his base MS Is pretty high at 350, higher than many other champions, meaning if your jungler doesn't catch him or you don't have CC he's going to get away then by the time he's back the wave will be under his tower and he can free farm. Not to mention, my jungler NEVER gank's me against nasus, no matter what i do, free kill or not, top lane does not exist once nasus enter's it.

Now, yes i can play Riven into him for her Mobility and CC, buuuuut then he'll come back with a glacial shroud and proceed to shit on me cause i can't do enough damage, then he'll hit me with 300 damage Q's with storm raider's and yolo run me down with his ultimate. He just shouldn't get the ammount of raw stats he get's, same with veigar, for doing nothing but farming, it's so frustrating and stressful to play against these two because if you don't end the game before a certain point, it's over and that's just not fun.

Fraggleroc1 votes

It's normally almost not worth ganking a Nasus lane unless it's a free kill.

Punish the other lanes instead. That is what I meant by Ignoring Him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FOJ8P04Nx4

This video explains it clearly.

The main problem with this is that your teammates may not have watched this video =) SO it is up to u to guide your teammates to the strat above.

Darkdemon6531 votes

First, the stats they get are not free. Second, Nasus is not a good late game champion.

DrCyanide1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2524322789/42592968?tab=overview

Viktor was AFK for the first 10 minutes, so Veigar got free farm and plenty of kills as the game went on. We still won because Veigar requires very specific conditions to do well in, and outside of those conditions he dies easily and leaves his team without a mid laner.

I feel like when you stop obsessing over "They have a Veigar/Nasus!" you start to actually do ok against them.

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

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http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2524322789/42592968?tab=overview

Viktor was AFK for the first 10 minutes, so Veigar got free farm and plenty of kills as the game went on. We still won because Veigar requires very specific conditions to do well in, and outside of those conditions he dies easily and leaves his team without a mid laner.

I feel like when you stop obsessing over "They have a Veigar/Nasus!" you start to actually do ok against them.

Too bad he AFKed.

A good Viktor can absolutely destroy Veigar in laning. Viktor can easily dodge everything (except maybe Q) because all of Veigar's abilities are telegraphed. Every time Veigar fires his Q (either at Vik or at minions) its literally a free/good trade for Viktor to fire back and easily proc Thunderlords.

Also, at level 6 Viktor Ult > Veigar Ult.

Late game Veigar may come back but from early to mid, definitely Viktor's lane and game to win

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