Cost : 350 golds
Gives : 75 Health, 25% health regen, 25% mana regen
Unique Active : Link to an ally (90 sec cooldowns) Unique Passive : Jungle monster kill grants you 0 golds instead of their normal gold value Unique Passive : When the linked ally last hit a minion, you gain the minion gold value (900 range)
Of course, finally having the same amount of gold, most support and/or support item would need to be re-balanced.
Brutalitops013 votesBad idea. There's already Relic Shield, which does the same thing except you must actively kill the minions instead of it being a passive thing and you have to have a certain number of charges. Putting an item in that makes supports have the exact same amount of gold from cs as their ADCs right now would be just plain terrible for the game as a whole. As you said, all support items would have to have their costs rebalanced for the greater amount of gold, so the item would in effect do nothing except give Riot a bunch of unnecessary work messing with costs.
Kyunsei3 votesWell, I kind of agree, but seeing how they are** always** working on balancing support and support item, and how it always end up in : - "Well, that item is good on supp' but too strong on other people, nerf it"
I think finally stopping the discrimination between support and other roles might solve that problem.
Brutalitops013 votesWell, I kind of agree, but seeing how they are** always** working on balancing support and support item, and how it always end up in : - "Well, that item is good on supp' but too strong on other people, nerf it"
I think finally stopping the discrimination between support and other roles might solve that problem.
Discrimination? I don't think you're using that word right. I think the right word(s) would be use by other lanes/roles, and I just don't see a lot of that happening other than with Locket. If support doesn't pick up locket, someone else will because that item is busted. Either way, other roles using good items that were meant for support isn't discrimination. ADCs are doing the exact same thing with assassin items right now, and probably will be doing it even more next season (looking at you, Duskblade Vayne). All of the support items now are far more specialized for support than they were. I remember the Philosopher's Stone Golden Heart Kage's Lucky Pick meta, dude. You wanna talk other lanes using support items? All 3 of those items were support items that gave passive gold gen, and no matter who you were playing or where, if you didn't buy all 3, or at least the Heart and Stone, you were bad.
DeathBurst3 votesHmm, that's probably too bold of a change for LoL at this point in the life of the game, but it's a neat idea for a future MOBA ;)
Side-question, why the Jungle passive?
Also, if in the 2nd Passive you could link with the Jungler and get gold from Monsters, that would allow the Support to go in the Jungle instead of in lane, that would open interesting new strategies.
Kyunsei2 votesI thought of the jungle passive cause it's kind of bold as you say, so I really want to avoid any abuse of this item. (Ganking, killing, getting all the CS*2 for your team)
FakeGravity2 votesgiving supports too much gold will actually displace them and put other champions that need gold more than levels in their place
supports have their place because they funtion with little gold and levels, or you forget how morgana and annie turn into support picks the second they could provide damage and utility without lossing that much gold? then they got nerf for it
Ariel the Cruel1 votesPoint of reference: This is exactly what happened in S4 when Riot updated the support role. They pumped a lot more gold into bot lane, gave supports gold scaling, and nerfed their base stats to balance out the changes. Your proposal would effectively do the same thing.
The result was mages and assassins overrunning bot lane and Janna was the only support to see play.
Riot gutted the new gold income (and items), but didn't revert supports. This meant nerfs to a bunch of champions that never needed the changes in the first place.
I'm all for exploring options to improve the support role. But simply pumping more gold isn't the solution.
ooheehee1 voteshow about Unique Passive: Using potions, life steal, spell vamp, jungle buffs apply effects to both of the linked champions
Supreme Senpai691 votesDamn. I thought this was doing to be a support jungle item and got excited. Two junglers would be awesome to break the meta.
Not to be rude but this is a bad idea. Like, it's an infinite charge relic shield that requires the effort of ancient coin. There's literally no downside or reason not to get it