I'm tired of everyone saying this and that is op

BeatinWarDrumz·Aug 27, 2015·9 votes·1,040 views

Look, there are things that ARE legitimately OP - take new skarner. We can bitch about him because he has a fucking 65% winrate! But if you look at the front page, the most upvoted threads by far are circlejerks about annie, riven, morde, etc etc... does there constantly need to be a scapegoat for bad play? First of all, Riot's balance team is NOT PERFECT. To those of you comparing it to dota, it is very clear that Riot alternates between metas to keep the game fresh. Whether this is right or wrong is your opinion, but know that it is intentional. Secondly, people RARELY look at winrates. Now winrates are NOT everything, as they reflect EVERYONE who has played the champion, but if a winrate is low on both experienced and new players at a champion... they aren't OP.

10 Comments

disregardableAug 27, 20153 votes

Balance wise, I'd say this patch is about as equivalent as the patch with DFG compensation. You know, the one with Ahri. It's that fucked over.

Prospector PeteAug 27, 20151 votes

It's funny how the only one that was buffed in compensation for the DFG removal was Ahri, who was already strong.

BeatinWarDrumzAug 27, 20151 votes

yeah obviosuly this patch is unblanced... riot completely flipped the game on it;s head.

FadedpfAug 27, 20153 votes

Well if you think nothing is OP unless it is Skarner level then fine you can think like that. But Riot sure could work on adding some fucking counterplay to champions that are opressive/are complained about. Things like Azir, Riven, Annie need counterplay aspects if they don't want to just straight up nerf their damage to point where they aren't a problem anymore. Riot can decide what needs damage nerfs or buffs but they really need to work on adding counterplay to problematic champs or abilities. Some abilities or kits are just need to be healthier and have flaws. (Vladimir in a nutshell)

ALBIØNAug 27, 20151 votes

Honestly speaking I completely agree with the OP. Way too many people complain about champs being broken when really they are just annoying to play against for some of you. I agree with you that annie needs to have some counter play. I think her ult should remain the same; however, I personally find it annoying how an annie can pretty much guaranteed kill one person every fight because of flash plus ult combo. I think something fair would be making her q a skillshot much like veigar. I feel like azir is fine, just because he is played in lcd doesn't mean he is op af. He is annoying but he isn't unbeatable and he does have counter play. Riven doesn't have a really good win rate, in fact its a completely fairy win rate at higher elos (around 52-53 percent). She has plenty of counter play. Her shield only lasts a brief moment, engage on her right after she uses it. Her stun is completely fair because she has to get within cc lock ranged to use it, which is why plenty of riven players do terrible because they think they are gods. The animation canceling is fair because it's hard, trust me I've been practicing her none stop for like weeks now and i still suck with her (49 percent win rate in ranked was 31 percent before i started practicing tho). What I think could be a fair nerf however would be her q. the fact that when you get 40 percent cdr you can q wait q wait q and then its up immediately feels a little to strong to me and maybe even nerf how long her ult is available for because honestly it doesn't need to be up for like 5 years. But honestly I think riven is fine but I do agree that annie needs some nefs along with devourer and some tweaks to the juggernauts and itemization. Oh and buff adcs because vayne is too big rn. Like buff lucian more and buff caitlyn.

HangsterrAug 27, 20151 votes

Well you're tired of that

I'm tired or people posting the same thing LOL

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20151 votes

Hi I agree with you on general, and this is exactly what I said a while ago xD

UdoIkOSc4uAug 27, 20151 votes

i'm tired of noob saying that garen darius is op they play vayne i'm pretty sure

Mr HyddeAug 27, 20151 votes

Every one is op when you suck!

Blade of JusticAug 27, 20151 votes

What if I said that Riven IS OP not because she can never lose, but because the conditions for her losing are so specific that it creates a binary champion that either wins at champ select or loses at champ select?