My message to whoever decided to change vision

Divewing··1 votes·501 views

Go to hell. AS A MID LANER THESE VISION CHANGES ARE TERRIBLE I BARELY HAVE ENOUGH TO PROTECT MYSELF FOR 60 SECONDS LET ALONE ALL LANE PHASE. I AM IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE JUNGLERS DETERMINE WHO WINS LANE ITS NOT THE MID LANERS ANYMORE, ITS WHO GANKS OR WHO DOESNT, AND THERES NEVER ANYTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE I CANT. SEE. IT. COMING.

And i fucking hate it. I am completely reliant on my jungler to either provide me with some of his vision (if he is so gracious), for him to gank my lane for me, or for the other jungler to not come mid ever. I liked playing mid because it was 9/10 times the most intense, but now its just a farm fest until the jungler shows up. It's not mid anymore. It's "who can abuse the enemy mid laner because it's impossible for him to provide sufficient ward coverage to protect himself" (If that's what you were going for trying to emulate the LCS, good job, you've successfully killed the entire point of mid lane for me).

It is costing me games, I had one yesterday where I'm pretty sure the jungler spent more time mid than in the jungle. Naturally of course, theres also trash talk i get from people who are 0/0/3 because their jungler is babysitting them, and it infuriates me to no end because every time by the end game I am either up in CS, damage dealt, or both.

Then theres also the problem of what to do when you are behind AFTER lane phase. You cannot leave your towers (which even then aren't safe). The support is usually the only one with a sightstone, the yellow trinket takes farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr too long to recharge so everyone else has the blue trinket, which are completely useless because they are cleared in 1/2 a second. So basically the support is either warding your defensive line, and any hope of pushing a tower, getting vision into the enemy jungle, contesting objectives (asides from a mircale steal perhaps), are completely out of the question, or they are warding such spots and its like walking through a minefield to make the rotations these wards provide.

According to WardScore, I ward more than about 60% of the "recorded players" on average (http://wardscore.loltools.net/?name=Lancir&region=oce). Before these bullshit changes i was in the 80s, so believe me when i say i know what i'm talking about, because the removal of stealth wards was disgustingly cruel.

5 Comments

Lil Lewd Witch1 votes

item 3363 - Has literally made my mid lane life the easiest thing ever. You get to ward for bot and top without leaving lane. The new vision changes are fine.

http://wardscore.loltools.net/?name=88M&region=na I was at about 80% before the changes, and now I've only dropped to 76% and thats okay. Vision was ruining the games, it was too easy to know where everyone was all the time. It's called learning to think a little and be better than your opponent.

Divewing1 votes

Ummm, it's doesn't matter if you can outthink your opponent if you can't do anything about it. Just because I know trundle is camping TF doesn't help me at all. I need to farm but it's too risky to push out. The vision difference has actually done the opposite of what you've said, it's made it easier to outnumber your opponent with little thought at all. There's less intelligent map movement required when goon squadding is infinitely easier than before

Lil Lewd Witch1 votes

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Ummm, it's doesn't matter if you can outthink your opponent if you can't do anything about it. Just because I know trundle is camping TF doesn't help me at all. I need to farm but it's too risky to push out. The vision difference has actually done the opposite of what you've said, it's made it easier to outnumber your opponent with little thought at all. There's less intelligent map movement required when goon squadding is infinitely easier than before

Meh, 90% of players are having no issues with it. It takes some learning, but can be done. Just because you have to change your play style, doesn't make it wrong or bad. Just means you have to adjust. Can't do it? Oh well.

boosted frog1 votes

maybe riot should implement a new final tier boots enhancement: the warding boots (cannot be stacked with sight stone)

2 luxurious rechargable wards attached to your boots that you can throw down on a bush anytime you like

then you be seeing vision-hungry mid laners rush final tier boots

jk

on a serious note:

If riot isnt planning to put back stealth wards (I really doubt so, and plus I really love the 75g vision ward),

I think the ward cool down should be slightly altered in favor of early game. Maybe less CD per level progression in early game? (So like from leveling 1 to 8, each level reduces more CD of the ward + increases the ward's duration more than it would from levels 9 to 18) if that makes sense. So there will be longer lasting wards + the gap between a ward expiring and a new ward off CD is shortened

It'll maybe improve the vision control of laning phase

But yeah I feel you as a mid laner. What I sometimes do (which is really really really dumb thing to do) is stack all of my wards on to one side and play aggressive as heck on that protected side of the lane. Since I play lots of Zed I can already easily escape a gank and with me camping one side of the lane that has like 100000 wards i feel pretty safe ahaha

Still I miss the ol' ways of stealth wards (and plus its not cool that i wait an (X) seconds gap between my ward expiring and me being able to put down a new ward. I literally would wait for my next ward cool down to finish and then i would sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly walk to my favorite warding spot and boom theres the enemy jungler walking towards me and im like ))))))))))): spare me please)

MilfHuntUnitXJ91 votes

Unnecessary anger bro

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