the only thing i'm gonna say about darius, garen, and morde is this

ScarnMichaelScar·Oct 1, 2015·2 votes·456 views

i don't have any trouble with them when i see them top against me. know why?

because i used to play all three of them extensively, and know their winning playstyles in and out. when you know what's coming and you prepare for it, it can't beat you.

also because top beats all melees in toplane.

edit: the moral of this story is if you think a champion is OP or broken, or you just can't beat that champion, start playing him/her/it. nothing tells you about a champion's weaknesses like playing as that champion

10 Comments

RenascentOct 1, 20153 votes

Galio would like to have a word with you

ScarnMichaelScarOct 1, 20151 votes

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would like to have a word with you

item 3151 would like a word with you

The Bearded BardOct 2, 20151 votes

+ item 3165

The Bearded BardOct 2, 20152 votes

Yessssssss! Another top lane Karma player!

360D3GR3SSOct 2, 20151 votes

Or you could just play jax and outscale all of them and outtrade them at all stages of the game. Fiora is the only issue, except she is counted by any top lanner who has strong team fight capabilities like malphite.

Kitten of EvilOct 2, 20151 votes

Maybe you're luckier for teammates than I am, but when I go top and pick Karma I get "OMG GG Karma top wtf" nonstop. So I've stopped trying to do it.

Old Man TeetoOct 2, 20151 votes

Hmmm... how do you fare against Fizz and Yasuo? Seems like a painful matchup against either.

VhalthoriaOct 6, 20151 votes

Old Morde could wreck Karma no problem but new Morde is just painfully laughable at top atm lol. Not worth mentioning.

VekknaOct 6, 20151 votes

Can you post from an account with a game played on Karma ?

In my experience, what I see happen in matchups of Karma versus Garen or Darius is this:

Karma puts all her skills on CD and forces Garen back to turret where he sits and regens hp while you push the wave. Then he freezes and calls for ganks or AOEs the whole wave down if they're under turret. From there, he'll rush a Spirit Visage and probably kill you. Whether he feeds you, goes even, or gets kills, he proceeds to outscale you for the rest of the game while you fall off hard.
Karma uses W on Darius and she gets a Q to the face. You harass him down with Qs until he farms a BC and/or DMP/SV, at which point, he runs you down for kills and proceeds to outscale you for the rest of the game while you fall off hard.
Karma tries to harass Morde and ends up shoving the wave where he freezes near tower, farms, and waits for ganks. Shortly thereafter, he has double your hp and a better shield, and you can't do anything but watch him farm. He then proceeds to outscale you for the rest of the game while you fall off hard.

This is just what I've seen from personal experience. Feel free to explain how exactly this is supposed to work after any of them have build an item.

ScarnMichaelScarOct 13, 20151 votes

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Can you post from an account with a game played on ?

In my experience, what I see happen in matchups of Karma versus Garen or Darius is this:

Karma puts all her skills on CD and forces Garen back to turret where he sits and regens hp while you push the wave. Then he freezes and calls for ganks or AOEs the whole wave down if they're under turret. From there, he'll rush a Spirit Visage and probably kill you. Whether he feeds you, goes even, or gets kills, he proceeds to outscale you for the rest of the game while you fall off hard.

Karma uses W on Darius and she gets a Q to the face. You harass him down with Qs until he farms a BC and/or DMP/SV, at which point, he runs you down for kills and proceeds to outscale you for the rest of the game while you fall off hard.

Karma tries to harass Morde and ends up shoving the wave where he freezes near tower, farms, and waits for ganks. Shortly thereafter, he has double your hp and a better shield, and you can't do anything but watch him farm. He then proceeds to outscale you for the rest of the game while you fall off hard.

This is just what I've seen from personal experience. Feel free to explain how exactly this is supposed to work after any of them have build an item.

item 3151 op

range op

50 ap at level 1 op

general knowledge of darius' q range and effectiveness op.

ult+w for 40% missing hp regen op

speedboost shield op

and who says karma has to push lane?

i just harass them out of lane, and focus on last hitting. if they're standing behind minions, your w will generally make them panic and leave the minion wave.