Anyone else think celerity is just dumb?

xxxMadLionxxx··101 votes·21,318 views

8% movement speed to all bonus movespeed. Ok, so if I get 100 bonus movespeed, I would get 8 more with this rune? Does that even make a difference when you factor movespeed cap?

Honestly, unless you are Hecarim or Rammus , this rune is just dumb. And guess which tree its in, " Sorcery"

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LiL Bunnie FuFuu14 votes

Sorcery Tree should be renamed Sonic Tree because all the runes make you go fast

The Highest Noon8 votes

[{quoted}](name=LiL Bunnie FuFuu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-11-30T01:36:15.376+0000)

Sorcery Tree should be renamed Sonic Tree because all the runes make you go fast

I MEAN IT IS BLUE...

3TWarrior2 votes

Sorcery the hedgehog? What Sonic is this? XD

Weiner the Pooh9 votes

I read celerity as CertainlyT and instantly agreed.

ModKnightsKemplar6 votes

I think it doesn't do enough now. I'm not sure it's "just dumb." I think the idea has a lot of promise, but it's not delivering on that promise atm. I think it ought to do something other than "boring stat boos"t if it's ever going to be useful or fun on champs other than Rammus and Hecarim.

Haze976 votes

On the top side, Irelia can now work around her nerf.

Need Gold 4 Tent5 votes

I would rather they made it 4% total ms with no ad conversion, since some champs legit used movespeed quints for 4.5% back then.

Gramps693 votes

This. 4.5% movespeed runes were my shit when jungling Udyr, Maokai, etc.

Hell, doing two for a 3% movespeed buff in midlane when you were laning against a brand or some other skillshot based champ was a huge bonus for you (obviously back in the glorious season 3 days)

SexualNuts4 votes

It honestly needs to be a flat move speed bonus and a bonus % multiplier.

Celerity: Gives +2 move speed per level. Bonus move speed is increased by 5%.

Rathar Dashing3 votes

That sounds extremely OP.

LeBlanc Jameś3 votes

I like it on Evelynn

AHeroNamedHawke8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bird Bean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:36:58.399+0000)

I like it on Evelynn

It's giving you 2.4% more Ms for 2 seconds lmao

LeBlanc Jameś1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Barklius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:46:13.147+0000)

It's giving you 2.4% more Ms for 2 seconds lmao

Based on what?

Doesn't it make all move speed effects 8% better? Maybe I am misunderstanding this rune

AHeroNamedHawke9 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bird Bean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T22:04:42.558+0000)

Based on what?

Doesn't it make all move speed effects 8% better? Maybe I am misunderstanding this rune

It's increasing the 30% boost from your E by 8%, resulting in a total movespeed increase of 32.4%

The bonus does not apply to boots

LeBlanc Jameś9 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charles Barklius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T22:21:14.118+0000)

It's increasing the 30% boost from your E by 8%, resulting in a total movespeed increase of 32.4%

The bonus does not apply to boots

Well that's dog shit :(

Dr Dog4 votes

ya thats why eve goes absolute focus and waterwalking

AHeroNamedHawke2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bird Bean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T22:35:51.353+0000)

Well that's dog shit :(

Yup, that's why everyone hates it rn

The Highest Noon2 votes

I think you're ignoring the damage boost from it. As well, it's a rune. Runes aren't meant for late-game utility. That's what Keystones are for.

Dr Dog62 votes

it doesnt have a dmg boost anymore, new celerity is just the eh ms boost that makes no difference on any champs really, its trash rn

The Highest Noon5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T20:42:57.117+0000)

it doesnt have a dmg boost anymore, new celerity is just the eh ms boost that makes no difference on any champs really, its trash rn

Jeez, I'm missing out on updates then. Still, it's a rune. It's not meant for late-game utility. As well, having more movement speed than the opponents is a pretty great benefit. It means you can escape them. It means they can't escape you. It means you have a better chance of evading ganks than they have. It means you have a higher chance of evading skillshots than they have.

Dr Dog20 votes

it works well that that in theory but in game its just a wasted slot, 8% extra isnt much because it only applies to speed boosts not flat ms, theres no real reason to take it over absolute focus or transcendence

The Highest Noon2 votes

No reason except every reason that having higher movement speed than your opponent matters...which are quite a many reasons.

Dr Dog12 votes

its only on speed boosts and barely makes them better, if you get a speed boost its likely you already ARE now faster, it just doesnt need to exist and certainly not in the sorcery line

The Highest Noon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:01:40.442+0000)

its only on speed boosts and barely makes them better, if you get a speed boost its likely you already ARE now faster, it just doesnt need to exist and certainly not in the sorcery line

And boots. "Bonus" applies to everything that isn't base.

Dr Dog14 votes

actually, not boots because in its description it specifically states it doesnt work on boot items

The Highest Noon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:05:19.730+0000)

actually, not boots because in its description it specifically states it doesnt work on boot items

Since when? Last I heard, "bonus" applies to literally everything that isn't base stats.

Dr Dog11 votes

since it was reworked, go look at it on the league wiki it specifically says it doesnt work with boot items

Profirix1 votes

It does NOT work on base boot speed increase: i.e. the 50ms you get from t2 boots.

The Highest Noon2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tongue in Cheek,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:43:10.685+0000)

It does NOT work on base boot speed increase: i.e. the 50ms you get from t2 boots.

Yes, we established that over 30 minutes ago.

Velzard of Koz21 votes

We also established you don't even know what the rune does long ago but you still argued about rune you know nothing about.

The Highest Noon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T22:11:02.076+0000)

We also established you don't even know what the rune does long ago but you still argued about rune you know nothing about.

When did we do that? Nobody has corrected me on anything except the most recent patch.

Z3Sleeper7 votes

They've literally corrected you on everything about it. Dw I'll list em for you so you don't forget again.

  • New Celerity doesn't grant bonus damage.

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-29T20:39:51.350+0000)

I think you're ignoring the damage boost from it. As well, it's a rune. Runes aren't meant for late-game utility. That's what Keystones are for.

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T20:42:57.117+0000)

it doesnt have a dmg boost anymore, new celerity is just the eh ms boost that makes no difference on any champs really, its trash rn

  • New Celerity doesn't increase movement speed anymore but rather bonus movement speed.

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T20:58:42.142+0000)

No reason except every reason that having higher movement speed than your opponent matters...which are quite a many reasons.

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:01:40.442+0000)

its only on speed boosts and barely makes them better, if you get a speed boost its likely you already ARE now faster, it just doesnt need to exist and certainly not in the sorcery line

  • Boots are not counted towards new Celerity's increase.

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:04:00.346+0000)

And boots. "Bonus" applies to everything that isn't base.

[{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:05:19.730+0000)

actually, not boots because in its description it specifically states it doesnt work on boot items

And that just about covers literally everything about new Celerity. The fact that you knew none of that to begin with means that in every case of someone explaining it to you after stating some false fact was a case of correction.

Thus we can ascertain that you have in fact been corrected on literally everything about new Celerity.

/thread

Sexy Jack Rabbit5 votes

I've never seen someone be wrong SO many times in a row and not once check between any of them.

The Highest Noon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sexy Jack Rabbit,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000002,timestamp=2018-11-30T11:27:33.999+0000)

I've never seen someone be wrong SO many times in a row and not once check between any of them.

Except I was literally in game and ran the tests myself.

You're excused.

madkillerman2 votes

Yea the boots work The Highest Noon was right Ijust tested it with Annie only gave me +3 movement speed

Beast Brawler3 votes

I tested it tho and it did work with boots. :/

Dr Dog1 votes

go into practice tool, at level one with the rune grab boots and look at your ms, now exit go into one without the rune as the same champ and buy just boots level one again, your ms will be the same

Beast Brawler3 votes

I played Hecarim and got Mobi boots, and I had much more ms than the boots alone should have granted.

rayzo2 votes

Can confirm, it does work on boots Dr Dog is full of shit

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T20:45:30.220+0000)

Jeez, I'm missing out on updates then. Still, it's a rune. It's not meant for late-game utility. As well, having more movement speed than the opponents is a pretty great benefit. It means you can escape them. It means they can't escape you. It means you have a better chance of evading ganks than they have. It means you have a higher chance of evading skillshots than they have.

yeah well it was fine before they completely gutted it

like a 99% movemet speed boost from Zilean , gives u 26 more ms than it previously would have given you without taking celerity at all except when u take into account that that is the highest base ms boost in the game (as far as i know)

it means champions like nid Nidalee who have a 30% speed boost, only get 8 extra movement speed form celerity

which is actually .55 ms LESS than i would get from old celerity. which gave 8.55 as soon as u got t2 boots

and i lose the entire conversion as well.. which really was the entire reason i took it in the first place.

in every since of the word it's flat out worse

it gives no ms when not in a speed boost it gives LESS MS than it used to even if u ARE in a speed boost and the adaptive stats are completely gone.. there is literally no reason to EVER take it..

even champions like Hecarim and Rammus would be better of taking runes for a non-sorcery tree now. its THAT BAD

The Highest Noon1 votes

Those champions already had reasons for taking other rune trees. That's the joy of having options.

SwiftKitten882 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-29T20:59:43.734+0000)

Those champions already had reasons for taking other rune trees. That's the joy of having options.

the OLD celerity was good..

the NEW celerity might as well not exist for all the good it does.. u dont get jack shit from it.

it has ZERO effect unless you are in a speed boost... if u are.. unless your speed boost is over 40%.. your not going to even get 10 more MS than u would have.

your about 4x better off taking a cloud drag than u are grabbing celerity.

Minimac20001 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T20:45:30.220+0000)

Jeez, I'm missing out on updates then. Still, it's a rune. It's not meant for late-game utility. As well, having more movement speed than the opponents is a pretty great benefit. It means you can escape them. It means they can't escape you. It means you have a better chance of evading ganks than they have. It means you have a higher chance of evading skillshots than they have.

It's not an 8% bonus ms it's a ms abilitied are 8% more effective. Pretty much useless on everyone

The Highest Noon1 votes

{quoted}

It's not an 8% bonus ms it's a ms abilitied are 8% more effective. Pretty much useless on everyone

It literally says 8% bonus ms. Where are people getting this information that it only affects abilities?

Minimac20002 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=00000000000000020000,timestamp=2018-11-30T19:56:40.627+0000)

It literally says 8% bonus ms. Where are people getting this information that it only affects abilities?

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Celerity "8% increase in effectiveness to all ms bonuses, does not include boots" i.e. only does anything with Ms abilities

The Highest Noon1 votes

{quoted}

wiki

Why are people using wikia as a source instead of the actual patch notes?

Minimac20001 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=0000000000000002000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T22:29:37.534+0000)

Why are people using wikia as a source instead of the actual patch notes?

It was just more easily accessible. Read the patch notes or the client, they both say the same thing

The Highest Noon1 votes

It's not, though rofl Patch Notes are not only easier to navigate but lacks the cpu drain of wikia and also provides you with completely accurate information. Wikia is literally just dudes changing whatever they want without source.

I prefer patch notes and client both since they disagree with wikia.

Minimac20001 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9LmBGl3,comment-id=000000000000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-02T22:34:05.325+0000)

It's not, though rofl Patch Notes are not only easier to navigate but lacks the cpu drain of wikia and also provides you with completely accurate information. Wikia is literally just dudes changing whatever they want without source.

I prefer patch notes and client both since they disagree with wikia.

yep well, they don't disagree. Check your reading again https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-823-notes "Now amplifies movement speed bonuses rather than all movement speed; no longer grants adaptive force." and " Movement speed bonuses increased by 8%" and " Celerity can grant larger movement speed bonuses for champs and teams with lots of haste effects." Sorry, sir, but you are in fact incorrect.

The Highest Noon1 votes

{quoted}

yep well, they don't disagree. Check your reading again https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-823-notes "Now amplifies movement speed bonuses rather than all movement speed; no longer grants adaptive force." and " Movement speed bonuses increased by 8%" and " Celerity can grant larger movement speed bonuses for champs and teams with lots of haste effects." Sorry, sir, but you are in fact incorrect.

That in no way shape nor form mentions neither boots or Enhanced Movement, which is what the wikia says.

Are you even aware of what you're talking about? Or are you just trolling?

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