Rylai's should give no AP.

The Ecdysiast··2 votes·307 views

Edit to title: Remove Rylai's.

Side note: Frozen Mallet is better in every way for an AD caster. There isn't a single AD caster who doesn't also have some sort of AA requirement to their burst. More HP, additional AD, and the slow is just as strong.

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Big Lincoln2 votes

Illaoi Garen MonkeyKing Riven Hecarim sounds good man

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Already has a slow, removes slows, has a long knockup and buys bork frequently, has a knockup and a stun, has a fear and discplacement.

Those champions specifically wouldn't gain much from this change. They'd get more from buying Mallet already.

Big Lincoln1 votes

almost every rylai user already has hard CC. guess it's a waste of an item for them kek

The Ecdysiast1 votes

They still get more from buying Mallet, which AP champs wouldn't. That's why I'm saying that AD champs wouldn't benefit. Mallet is stronger than both Rylai's and my suggested change, for AD champions.

Big Lincoln1 votes

so a single target slow on Illaoi is better than slowing up to 5 people?

a single target slow is better than Hecarim Q slowing AoE?

Garen AoE slow on a champion who hardly even auto attacks beyond his Q?

i shouldn't have to spell it out this much for you

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Illaoi can do that with her kit alone, considering the area of her Q.

Hecarim doesn't even need it, otherwise he'd buy Rylai's. A lot of Hecarim players opt for the AP jungle item anyway. He's got enough AP scaling to make it a worthwhile purchase at the moment, but people don't because they don't need to.

And the Q is a silence that prevents them from casting movement during the spin anyway. And if removing the AP suddenly makes an item that gives 400 HP and an AoE slow to Garen strong, then people would buy Rylai's on him already.

Calabok2 votes

It should be 120AP 700 HP and Slows to 70%

and only mages that have low mobility can get it.

Handy Sandy 2 votes

Well if it gives no AP, can we increase item 3089 to 220 AP or have a 7th item slot for mages only so we can still burst down opponents and still be a reliable damage dealer and doesn't have to rely on the adc 100% of the time.

Emojay1 votes

No. just no.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Explain.

Emojay1 votes

Why would a magical scepter of crystal just give some health? And if you just wanted to build something like it on ad champions, maybe riot could make that work. Just not totally needing it to the point where it's not a super great mage pick.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Why do the champions that wield bows and guns buy swords?

Mallet's already fine on any AD caster, since every one of them uses Autos as well. It'd also be a better option even against a 600 HP Rylai's.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

people stop crying over the AP on item 3116 its not the AP that is the issue it is the passive ( the slow )

JustMonika131 votes

No.

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