How are the people in silver better than high gold low plat

LegitBusinessman··2 votes·3,201 views

Game sense, warding, CS/min, literally in every basics of the game my 25-30 games from S4-S1 were infinitely better than the crap I have dealt with since.

Everything they said about higher elo that I never believed possible, is actually true. To be naive and bad again...

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The Nocturne God4 votes

Except they aren't at all. Experience with multiple unranked to diamond runs. Currently doing a b5 to p5 staying with 90% win rate. Can easily say bronze is worse than silver which is worse than gold, which is worse than plat, which is worse than diamond.

Illabethe1 votes

And what position do you main? Oh Right. Jungle. You can influence the game from any direction, and are playing mostly a champ no one really knows how to play against pre Plat II in 1v1's. Nocturne isn't exactly not smurf material..... Your adc games show you really aren't a rounded player.

The Nocturne God3 votes

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And what position do you main? Oh Right. Jungle. You can influence the game from any direction, and are playing mostly a champ no one really knows how to play against pre Plat II in 1v1's. Nocturne isn't exactly not smurf material..... Your adc games show you really aren't a rounded player.

Lots of assumptions with no knowledge. I can hard carry to at least p2 as any role. My adc games are from people trolling me in champ select thinking im gonna give a fuck in their game while smurfing.

Now lets look you up and make some assumptions. Silver 3 43% win rate.. you have no experience in plat, let alone gold, unless your friend let you use their account, whichnin that case, every One seemed bad to you on your team because you got dumpstered, but lack the game knowledge to realize it was your fault.

You shit post me, I'll shit post you.. except if i am in YOUR elo I'm looking like an unstoppable beast, when you are in MY elo you look like you are boosted.

Illabethe1 votes

Erm...... This account is 48-49%, and I'm just playing with some friends with nonmeta crap? My main is Diamond III :) (down from Diamond II this Season though :S)

SUPERMOVAA1 votes

Ur both low Elo dogs lol

The Nocturne God3 votes

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Erm...... This account is 48-49%, and I'm just playing with some friends with nonmeta crap? My main is Diamond III :) (down from Diamond II this Season though :S)

You have 800 games in silver with a 48%. You don't have a diamond 3 account. If you did, you would have posted on that, not an even lower account, which represents the same info as the other. My point is still proven.

Illabethe1 votes

I have over 16,000 games.

The Nocturne God3 votes

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I have over 16,000 games.

That is a nice claim. But again, my argument in this thread, is that you are making a claim regarding ranks without any provable experience to back it up. I pointed out that your account was not an account that a smurf would be using based on the rank and win rate. It was silver 3 with very little games played. It was 25-33. It is very easy for someone, even at the bronze 1 level, to place an account and get that rank and win rate. After many many games they will drop back down to bronze 1, or at least bottom out at silver 5 with very low mmr.

You then went on an account that was a lower rank, silver 5, with 48% win rate and 847 games, 0 lp. It has 1077 MMR ( Bronze 2 ). The account only has premade games with 1 other player, a silver 2 player with a 50% win rate., your win rate with him is 29%; his win rate is higher when he plays without you, a supposive diamond 3 smurf.

Meanwhile, here is an account of a real smurf, around your MMR:

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=honor+ribbon

See how in even the VERY FEW LOSSES, the player completely dominated everyone in the game? That is the difference between a smurf losing and someone losing in games where they are at their rank, which is what is shown in your match history.

Here is a smurf account at a much higher rank than you, with P1/D5 MMR and a 76% win rate.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=the+nocturne+god

So my point is, you are saying your rank, silver, is better than gold and plat, without even having provable experience in those ranks. If you do have any games played, it would mean you played on someone else's account to try a high ranked game, or you bought an account. If you want to prove me wrong, simply post from your main account and** try to prove me wrong**.

Illabethe1 votes

Smurfs casual. Some purely Int. I just play tired after 12 hour work days 5 days in a row.

P.S. I have other duos. Most of my friends ARE inactive atm though, other than 3-4 and 3 get too serious.

P.P.S. I like anonymity, and not spamming one champ who can heal, insta ult-gib, has an ability shield, and a leashing Fear. I like fun things. Like...... Zyra Jungle.... or Ahri Support.... or Pyke Jungle.....

The Nocturne God3 votes

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Smurfs casual. Some purely Int. I just play tired after 12 hour work days 5 days in a row.

P.S. I have other duos. Most of my friends ARE inactive atm though, other than 3-4 and 3 get too serious.

P.P.S. I like anonymity.

lol, keep telling yourself whatever you need to. I proved my point. Anyone can just look it up and come to their own conclusion, but it is a pretty simple and logical conclusion that everyone will make...

EnigmaticMachine1 votes

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Except they aren't at all. Experience with multiple unranked to diamond runs. Currently doing a b5 to p5 staying with 90% win rate. Can easily say bronze is worse than silver which is worse than gold, which is worse than plat, which is worse than diamond.

Gold players are worse than silver thats a fact they have no teamwork

KazaJhodo2 votes

Because matching is completely fucked up.

I think if riot had any idea how bad it actually is, they would've fixed it by now. Its a fucking nightmare.

I don't really agree with the statement though. I think silver games all feel really random and inconsistent- but perhaps high gold are more-so. I've heard similar things from a few high diamonds. Though i've also heard some high diamonds say that silver is actually hard to climb in because its so random.

I don't know anymore man, i'm starting to hear complaints from all directions.

Automated Riven2 votes

They aren't. Your comparing your stats against people who aren't as good vs better players stats against better players. It's not a fair comparison.

Man In Sky1 votes

this is downvoted. doesnt make sense

Hemroids Suck1 votes

Dont forget the smurf boosting their friends. Have seen smurfs and their duo 6/10 games in silver one is 20-5 their duo is 2-10 every single time.

I Support Solar1 votes

I'm not sure flat comparisons really work here, because, keep in mind, the enemies are also the same MMR as your own team.

Maybe this just means it is harder to CS against a plat opponent than a silver opponent. I would assume the plat opponents harass better and more easily notice mistakes.

JoeAnarchy1 votes

ok, but i'm a B3 and i suck, but even i understand the basics of the game and would be attempting to hit goals and such.. i'm guessing you play with alot of boosted players, who actually aren't good, but could pay to get their accounts up there..

SugeMinPikk1 votes

G5 and P5 are popular boosting ranks. Boosted P5s trickle down into all of gold.

Peritheus1 votes

You'd be suprised what elo hell does to ya, well to their sanity, anyway basically what happened was at some point amongst the seasons5 and up, it was like bronze eventually got into silver which silver got into gold and gold stays gold thus bronze=gold and vice versa, now with the elo boosters and such, they are gonna play like bleh, and they don't really care too much since your rank doesn't deteriorate in that division for the season, so its a fiesta as losing costs more lp than winning, so having the forced 50% wr blows,general smurf duo with bronze teammate just to help them climb, etc. It's rare to see a honest silver since matchmaking is rigged now a days, you can't train around your lvl, but are forced to play against opponents much higher thans your while also caring for lower teammates on your back just so queue times become shorter which results in less skill overall.

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