CertainlyT Champions all bad?

TheDevice·1/31/2018, 6:09:02 PM·3 votes·1,604 views

So much blowing out of proportions and over-exaggerating the capabilities of his champions I just thought it would be easier to actually ask how many of his champions people find problematic.

Are all of them problematic or just one or two? Obviously lots of people take issue with Yasuo and Zoe but he's made six champions plus one rework (warwick). Is all this hate and anger over just two champions, or all of them? Should they all be deleted/reworked? Lets get to the heart of this anger.

This should maybe help get a better perspective on things I think.

33 Comments

Jamaree1/31/2018, 6:17:39 PM4 votes

As much hate as he gets, they aren’t that bad after a while. Everyone whines about them at release like every champion then after the qq subsides, people realize that they aren’t that bad.

People whines non stop about Darius true damage ultimate, then people realized you can free kite him.

Yasou, while annoying to play against, high Eli players like qtpie and scarra say he isn’t that bad and you need to improve to beat him, the list goes on.

KVbqbFsC8e1/31/2018, 9:24:00 PM4 votes

Every single champion he has designed has been a balance nightmare.

SuperLuigiLXIV1/31/2018, 6:28:52 PM3 votes

CertainlyT's champion designs are overloaded. There's no two ways about it. That some of the older ones are more in line thanks to the mobility/power creep catching up to them in no way diminishes how bad they were when they were designed.

That being said, his reworks are on point for the most part. He's done four reworks, for Warwick, Mordekaiser, Graves, and Caitlyn, and Morde's the only one that didn't succeed across the board. And the mechanics he designs are good. He just puts too many of them into each champion he makes.

So I think he shouldn't be allowed to make new champions, but for reworking a champion without losing the spirit of the original design, or for designing new mechanics entirely, he's by far my favorite Rioter.

Enderspider1/31/2018, 6:44:26 PM2 votes

CertainlyT's champions are great, but a bunch aren't really fit for a pvp game as whether they do well or not is almost 100% dependant on who plays the champion rather than spread among those playing them and those playing against them. This is why they have large counterplay issues and have no really clear counters like some champs. No offense though, he's made some good champions with actual counterplay that contibute to the game. Thresh Darius . One thing he needs to do more is think about people playing against the champ rather than just about people playing them, if he does this I think he adds great champions to the game. (except for you Yasuo )

Kivolan2/1/2018, 5:32:32 PM2 votes

People need to remember that Darius , at the time of his release, was extremely OP. At that time shit like MonkeyKing was considered a lane bully. Do you know how badly Darius shits on Wukong? Nowadays he's not so bad since he can more easily be kited thanks to the seventeen thousand dashes in the game.

Zyra , as we have seen, has needed numerous tweaks to her plants to be more in line, but I'd say she was the most successful CT release... And she wasn't even really his, considering two other Rioters helped.

Thresh has the Lulu symptom of "I do everything well" which kind of pushed out other supports for a bit, but he's probably the most successful CT release to date.

Kalista 's passive will always leave her either as godtier or in the gutter. There's simply no in between.

Yasuo has a kit that is simply overloaded.

Zoe has a very cancerous combo that has little to no counterplay to it, especially for its ability to one shot champions.

Zed genius1/31/2018, 7:10:55 PM1 votes

Besides warwick I think his other champions are fine (zoe needs a few more tweaks but she'll get there)

Vecinity2/15/2020, 1:30:30 AM1 votes

As a Zoe/Yas player, it's funny to see what brain dead chimp made them. All of them needed to be balanced, and fuck Aphelios

Quepha2/1/2018, 5:33:29 PM1 votes

He also did the Morde rework which was considered an epic disaster.