Is Yi at all a healthy champ?

TheDevice··46 votes·13,070 views

Why is he so busted right now?

His damage is absurd and armor is POINTLESS. Why is this guy still a thing?

Literally, no tank items matter against this guy.

I wholeheartedly laugh at people who are so hateful towards champs like Yas when I'd rather play vs a yas than a yi every time.

Yi mains "but muh auto attack champ that lets stats do everything for me"

At least yas players have to be somewhat good with the champion.

62 Comments

Glîtchy34 votes

Talon Zed MasterYi Katarina Kaisa Kindred Khazix Rengar

Are all current meta, I call it..... black-n-white screen meta

Sleepcoma16 votes

more like Aatrox Graves Lulu Zoe Yasuo Vladimir Swain

ßluę1 votes

no it's summoner 11 Aatrox . :^)

Poske7 votes

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Talon Zed MasterYi Katarina Kaisa Kindred Khazix Rengar

Are all current meta, I call it..... black-n-white screen meta

Kha zix is not meta (he has been meta for like 2 years untill very recently) Katarina is not meta well she is always meta in low elo tho

you are correct on others

ninjaroxas2 votes

Damn what am I missing when did kindred become meta?

Poske2 votes

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Damn what am I missing when did kindred become meta?

Recently

Overcompensated because muh scuttle contesting

LuthianDelphi3 votes

Tbf, atleast kindred isnt a stat check champion. Her marks are contestable if u got a competent midlaner who roams and overall it requires alot more skill to kill someone w/ her than it does any of the aforementioned assassins, also having an ADC that spikes earlier than 3 items like all the other ADC's in the game -Kindred only really needs warriors and runnans- is really helpful in the current meta where most teams don't have an ADC. Gives her more value, not just that her dmg or numbers are high.

Dream High1 votes

The only time i ever see Katerina is when she's being 1 tricked or being used by smurfs to abuse low elo. Either way she's not healthy for the game.

CoffeeCKDD1 votes

NERF LETHALITY

Akali Prime2 votes

good to see kindreds back atleast. maybe theyll give her skin.

MadSeer9 votes

Feels wrong that an assassin can bypass everything a tank has in his arsenal. Oh, he has a lot of MS, AS and physical damage? Guess I could build a Frozen Heart and a Randuin's! Nop, because he's also immune to slows. I mean there are clear ways to counter a Master Yi, but they're specific champions, not items, which is frustrating because it means you either have these champs and shut him down or you're screwed because he'll fly right past every resistance or disable items have.

CodeNightFall2 votes

Wait. Does Yi's Ult counter attack speed slows? Ive been thinking of playing Nasus item 3110 into him

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

It makes him immune to all attack speed slows. Nasus W will not help you.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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It makes him immune to all attack speed slows. Nasus W will not help you.

No slows work on him.

Attack speed or movement speed slows.

CodeNightFall1 votes

What the fuck thats broken.

Bob the Toastr9 votes

Unfortunately it does. I feel like that is a point where they could give a little counterplay against Yi is keeping the movement speed slow immunity but allowing his attack speed to be slowed. That way you could build against him.

TonyTonyMordecai2 votes

I honestly thought the attack speed slow while his ult was on was a thing at one point, or am I going nuts?

Bob the Toastr1 votes

I thought so too but I just dug through the entire history of changes and couldn't find it anywhere.

BobaFlautist1 votes

It always was but it used to be considered a bug, until Riot made it official that slow immunuty/reduction applies to attack speed slows.

Vekkna1 votes

Yeah, he's immune to slow and cripple during ult. What's worse is that his slow immunity also negates all the other effects of Exhaust for some unknown reason.

Red Wreckage3 votes

he has not been an assassin for a long long time now...

he is something like a light fighter/skirmisher/melee hyper-carry.

also his kit + item 3124 is made for chopping down tanks into little shreds.

Baron of Bread3 votes

Yi isn't really an assassin, he is a melee carry. Tanks are supposed to be things he kills if they don't have a burst champion around to follow up their cc.

Hrolfgord6 votes

Yi is also bad because he's real easy as a "pub stomper" so for less experienced players they get a little behind then boom they can't do anything because a 2 item Yi is destroying them with little to nothing they can do about it

FCJAAAAGOOOO2 votes

This right here

of all the champs deserving of on-kill reset abilities, Yi isn't one of them

I am 124 votes

I think riot actually should nerf yi's true damage scaling since they gave him a huge buff with the new essence reaver.

Malak4 votes

I think Yi is a good champion for league.

He's the traditional melee hyper carry. When I played Yi, I stomped, yes, but I also got one shotted by assassins and CC was a death sentence. You have to make sure to dodge with Q or you pretty much insta die.

All these yi threads are pointless - try playing him for 50 games

Holgranth3 votes

Yi has NEVER been a good design.

AbsoluteMadmann2 votes

just dodge the alpha strike and cc bro XddDDd

Glîtchy1 votes

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just dodge the alpha strike and cc bro XddDDd

It's a point-n-click, no dodges allowed

kagepaladin2 votes

no, not at all. I have started calling yi the ticking time bomb, cause unless you win the game really early Yi will eventually get to the point where he just get's item 1419 and item 3153 or item 3124 and will start one shotting people, which is just ridiculous in my opinion.

FakeGravity2 votes

yi is one of those champions that is completely useless when behind, you are better off having teemo tank than a yi that is behind but... riot use that excuse as counterplay and the "CC shut him down" when in reality a feed yi (or a funneled yi) obliterate all he touches he isnt healthy and he need damage shave off in favor of outplay potencial, his ult could get removed entirely and change by something more amusing

Wicked FlamezZ2 votes

The fact that Yi has 100-0 me in ~2 seconds with Thornmail, Frozen Heart, and Randuins is actually unreal.

Baron of Bread2 votes

That's probably because you have very little health in that build and he has a lot of true damage. Resists are great but you need health to back them up.

Wicked FlamezZ1 votes

Both thornmail and randuins have HP...Not to mention sion already has a shit ton of base health... If your trying to argue that yi should kill a sion with 3 armor/hp items in 2 seconds how long should it take to kill a mage or adc? 0.1 seconds? Sounds fair.

Baron of Bread1 votes

Thornmail is pretty low as far as health goes (just 100 more than a health crystal), Frozen Heart has 0 health, and Sion actually has really low base health (the W passive makes up for it). Frozen Heart and Randuin's Omen also don't get to affect Yi with their passives because of his ult. You pretty much went straight into the worst items against Yi you could, at least if he isn't going crit which he probably isn't.

I would recommend getting something like a Sterak's instead of Thornmail (which you don't want to stack with Randuin's anyway, unique passives and such) and something with health rather than the Frozen Heart, even if it is an MR item. Sion is also one of the worst champions to deal with Yi on since you will never cc him outside of the occasional point-blank R, but you can't always avoid the match up.

As for killing squishies, Yi probably does it in closer to a second if you don't include the time for Alpha Strike. However, if you keep track of where he will come out of Alpha, even Sion can land cc.

Hyquiem1 votes

Yi was one of my first and he was fest or famine, at that time jungle had a lot of pressure, so yeah it wasn’t farm so I become op it was camping certain lanes to be fed. Yes if I became fed I would be a monster An day if I didn’t I would scale as hard. IMO he was healthy until riot went and made changes around champions to make him strong.

Seer of Mind1 votes

really we just need to nerf item 3153, it acts as a Giant Slayer pretty much, no good way to build against it unless you get item 3075 and hope that you'll last long enough that you won't get cleaned up immediately

R31W1NG1 votes

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really we just need to nerf item 3153, it acts as a Giant Slayer pretty much, no good way to build against it unless you get item 3075 and hope that you'll last long enough that you won't get cleaned up immediately

i disagree... buff thornmail for all physical damage instead of attack damage

strut1 votes

JuSt Cc HiM nOoB

Quinzley1 votes

Same thing with Kai'sa once she gets some items.

SlashStriker1 votes

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HungryAngry2SPP1 votes

Taric+Yi

The Space Cowboy1 votes

Does challenging smite work? I guess it’d only reduce his non true damage.

R31W1NG1 votes

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Does challenging smite work? I guess it’d only reduce his non true damage.

challenging smite reduces all damage

The Space Cowboy1 votes

Well then the new yi counter should be 5 smite comps lol

ChaddyFantome1 votes

Ofc he isn't. MasterYi has always basically been the OG Yasuo. lol. Just eb glad this isn't season 3. AP Yi never forghetti.

Morgana Excel1 votes

Yi would be completely balanced if Alpha strike didn't let him dodge cc/skill shots. Easy fix.

kurnubego1 votes

I think at this point there was a thread like this for each and every champion.

Yes, he is. Distinct strong points, distinct weak points.

Glîtchy2 votes

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I think at this point there was a thread like this for each and every champion.

Yes, he is. Distinct strong points, distinct weak points.

CC doesn't count as a weak point, almost every champ shares that

kurnubego1 votes

No, not really.

There are champions which have less predicable move patterns. And thus can only be reliably cc'ed by point and click abilities. There is also champions who stay out of range and can't be cc'ed reliably by point n click (short range abilites) or can dodge long range ones without much issue. And there are bulkier champions who may also build tenacity and getting cc'ed doesn't mean death by default.

"But Q!" Q is predictable move pattern. And only useful against players who blow their cc right away. When in fact it's reliable move pattern which allows to trap him, since you know where exactly he gonna appear after a second.

So no. It's not the same. Far from it.

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