Can someone please tell me where the hell "support" Zac came from?

Electro522··1 votes·490 views

I just lost a game because a "support" Zac would decimate our entire team from a single combo. He, and their Skarner jungler, made me (Caitlyn) completely useless. One E-W from Zac was enough to shred half my health, and then couple it with infinite stun from Skarner............my support Bard had as much gold as me, and I finished the game at level 16.......the lowest level in the game.....

But this isn't the first time, either......I've probably faced 3 "support" Zacs by now, all of which outscale their own ADC, and proceed to rip teams apart single handedly! Without them, their teams can't even win a 4v3! But bring in Zac, and he'll solo 3 of your squishies easily.

This is kind of reminding me of Top Lane Tahm Kench..........impossible to kill, while also doing a fricken crap ton of damage, while being able to come out from seemingly nowhere!

Seriously....where and when did this crap start, and how the hell do you counter it in the bot lane?

13 Comments

Gary B Enkelis2 votes

Probably came from adventurous Support players. I don't know the counter but I don't imagine he does much in lane except get poked to death and occasionally engage or toss a slow?

Calabok1 votes

he came from "within"

zlumpy1 votes

As cait good counter is to have traps at your feet then net backwards as he tries to land on you. Sure you can't do oppresive trap walls but you'll be much safer.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

I don't see Zac being a strong Support in lane (at least pre 6), and since Caitlyn shines early game I see her bullying him out of lane. I dunno.

zlumpy1 votes

His lvl 2 power spike is actually pretty big. That jump alone can wreck someone not paying attention. However it is very easy to avoid so it has to have some reward for landing it.

Plus he can just heal up off a minion wave that gets pushed to his tower pretty easy.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

Alright, good point about the level 2 spike.

I don't know Zac well enough to understand how he will easily heal at tower though. Remember we're talking about Support Zac , so we don't want to mess up CS too badly. I dunno though.

zlumpy1 votes

Every spell hit creates a blob he can pick up for healing. So under tower he can pick a bunch up while spamming the wave with spells and pick up the blobs in relative safety.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

Hmm. I'm being difficult here but I want to say that unless you're good at Zac (and why wouldn't you be if you're playing it Support?) then you could really mess up your ADC trying to last hit under tower.

I'm sure it's possible to pull off though.

Also what do you do if they don't push you to tower and freeze?

Sorry... I guess this is full of endless possibilities. You'll give me an idea, I'll give you an idea, and on and on....

zlumpy1 votes

The Q and W hits are pretty weak early on. E is the only real bursty move he has. Plus if he is healing because he just messed up the enemy badly I'm fine passing on a few cs so he can do it again. As long as positive gains are made who really cares what they are?

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

Yeah, I guess.

flyingbaklava1 votes

Um, Zac support does really poorly until he hits level 5 or 6 against all supports except tank supports (braum, leona, alistar, etc). He provides very little lane presence until he has his ultimate and needs some money to really scale up and become a teamfighting menace.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

He was made for support. Literally.

Emerald Fang1 votes

Same with support Zyra.

Once the support went 42/0, and the ADC was 0/8. WTF this shouldn't happen; make support only for certain champs pls ty.

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