A message to support mains from a friendly ADC.

Electro522·Sep 5, 2016·136 votes·7,633 views

Yes, yes, a FRIENDLY ADC.......I swear.

Anyway, about once every other game, my support happens to take a kill during a trade or whatever, and immediately afterwards, they apologize, and sometimes to the point where they're practically begging for their apology to be accepted.

Now, this is understandable, because there are plenty of asshole ADCs out there that go berserk if their support takes just a single minion (even if they have Targons).

If you happen to be playing with me, however, I don't give a damn if you take a couple kills in lane. As long you're not blatantly taking my farm just to troll me, I won't get mad. Besides, 90% of the time, I'll get the assist gold off of it, so I won't lose out on much, and that extra gold could end up making you a God in the later stages of the game, making you the true carry of the game!

So, my message to support mains is this: don't apologize for the kills you take, and if your ADC is a real asshole.........take even more! Maybe then they'll realize how it feels to be a support.

166 Comments

Tyrone LannisterSep 5, 201654 votes

Yes. But dont be that guy who flashes so they can take the kill. FeelsBadman

Electro522Sep 5, 201642 votes

True, but sometimes the support may think you won't be able to take it, or possibly go in for more CC, but miscalculate the damge they deal.

I do agree though.

MeilinIISep 5, 201627 votes

OMFG THIS. I cannot tell you how many ADCs bitch when Nami heals bounce off them and steal the kill. T_T Or when I go to bubble them and do way more damage then I thought. I JUST WANT YOU TO LIVE YOU HAVE LIKE 10 HEALTH DON'T FLAME ME

Miss WorthlessSep 6, 20169 votes

I know, right? These people dont realize we just want to protect them - People who've never played support do not realize why you prioritize their survival over all else, until you fail to keep that Rengar off them...

If you are a support main, you deserve everything you want to go right for you in life.

CriticalTrollSep 6, 20161 votes

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I know, right? These people dont realize we just want to protect them - People who've never played support do not realize why you prioritize their survival over all else, until you fail to keep that Rengar off them...

If you are a support main, you deserve everything you want to go right for you in life.

Ah the typical 'IM A SUPPORT MAIN I NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG I ALWAYS CARRY MY TEAM IS 0' you even added some drama-queen effects to go with. I will never understand why does supports players need to act like victims so hard, i mean i play support too from time to time and i dont want my team to suck my pants cause i hit 1 hook at point blank, just saying.

Miss WorthlessSep 7, 20163 votes

You just proved my point. Thank you. Now go back to your little egobubble with the rest of the adcs and mid laners.

LimrickSep 6, 20164 votes

That's like when I land a combo as support Velkoz and just disintegrate them, because I forgot I had 500 AP.

Electro522Sep 6, 20165 votes

playing Thresh

Me: Ah, this hook won't kill them. Easy kill for my ADC!

throws hook

"You have slain an enemy."

Me:...........Goddamnit.

What Is SmiteSep 6, 20164 votes

When that happens I tend to flame the enemy laners: WHY DIDNT YOU HAVE MORE RESISTANCES!!!

suicide cerealSep 6, 20162 votes

Playing Sona

Me: Ah yeah I'll just E powerchord so they can't get away!

E's and autos

"You have slain an enemy!"

Me: WHY DO I DO SO MUCH DAMAGE

PaladinNOSep 6, 20165 votes

As a Nami main, let me tell you a real story from my time down the bot lane:

Vayne Goes in Nami Follows Vayne Takes towershot Vayne Dealing (heavy) damage Vayne Takes another towershot 3rd towershot on the way, Vayne would die if hit by it Nami Heals Nami Heal bounces off Vayne and kills enemy Vayne Survives

"Fcking ks noob!!" ~

Afterword: I stuck with my Lulu, turned AP, and went toplane to be alone and as far away from any Vayne as possible.

Now I only play Nami if all else fails.

DepressedAhriSep 7, 20161 votes

While, I know there might be nice Vayne players out there, I refuse to play anything other than Bard if I'm playing with a Vayne just so I don't tilt.

PaladinNOSep 7, 20163 votes

http://i.imgur.com/LOhRKaH.jpg

Lost RSep 5, 201638 votes

As a four year support main, I've been on all sides of this in every scenario, as the support who "stole" a kill (from the top laner, the ADC, the jungler AND the mid laner, both separately and all at the same time), an ADC who had the kill "stolen" by the support, and being yelled at and "forgiving" the support. I got bumrushed by three enemy champions as support Karma once, and I somehow managed to kill all of them while our Zed hung at the side, waiting for me to die before jumping in and securing the kill, tried to once he realized the fight swung in my favor, didn't even get an assist on two of them, and then flew off into a blood puking, baby punching rage at me for "stealing" his kills, even though he clearly intended to have me die so he can claim them.

People don't realize that a kill is a kill, no matter who gets it, a fed support is a terrifying thing, assists still count for something, and who gets the kill isn't as important as temporarily removing the enemy from the lane, which opens up more opportunities for you and your team (pushing the lane, sabotaging the enemy jungle, going for dragon/Rift Herald/Baron, etc). People think that just because they're the top laner, or the jungler, or the ADC or mid laner that they are entitled to by official decree from Riot to have all the kills, and that a support with a kill is a reportable offense.

I don't like drawing this card because it's an extreme false equivalency, but it reminds me a lot of the racist prejudice against blacks waaaaayyy back in the day. If a black person had money, they had to have stolen it because black people can't legitimately earn money by themselves (because they have the crime gene). It's the same thing with supports. Supports can't legitimately get kills, so any kills they DO have _had _to have been stolen from someone much more deserving.

Now let me tell you one more thing about the ne- support. This anti-support prejudice comes from the mentality that developed during the earliest years of League, where high school-grade alpha male mentality popped up and the support role was the role the least skilled person got because then they didn't have much responsibility other than being a ward mule. Season three reached a peak where you just shot the support at the end of the game for no reason other than being the support. Then their update happened in Season Four, and for the first time, the supports got a lucky break and became a much more menacing role. But... that culture that developed during the early seasons of League still persists even today, and it might see a resurgence soon.

LuxannaVeritasSep 6, 20166 votes

Whenever I hear, "If you're a girl you better go support kekekek" I want to punch them in the face because 1) that's false stereotyping, and 2) I know they're indicating that support takes the least skill to play, but HELL they are so wrong! Playing support takes skill too! We have skill shots too!

But I totally agree. I occasionally come across people who flame me for getting a kill on Lux support, and those who don't care if I accidentally snipe a kill with Janna. It all depends on the player; when I play ADC, I never flame if my support gets a kill because I've been in their shoes before. Many times.

Lost RSep 6, 20165 votes

You know, when I was a young boy, I would always play the girls in every game because (aside from the girls being prettier) I wanted to beat every boy who would trash talk the girls as being inherently the weakest on any roster. In a way, I'm doing the same thing as a support main.

jaymc1130Sep 5, 201618 votes

Bard : KS.

Ezreal : Kill secured indeed. WP.

Bard : [zombie-nunu-hearts]

Legacy HydralphaSep 5, 20163 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2275522225/217336228?tab=overview

Is it OK if I am the ADC?

AptestSep 5, 201618 votes

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immediately afterwards, they apologize, and sometimes to the point where they're practically begging for their apology to be accepted.

I tell you why some supports do this:

These entitled twats we play with tend to AFK on us if we happen to get a kill. If we get 2? the jungler or top lane is going to join them. I got a quadra last I played alistar. Guess how much my knees shook?

You know what the biggest problem support mains have with the support role? Its the entitled hyperscaling rectums we are pressed into protecting.

Penguin EclipseSep 5, 201612 votes

I get raged at all the time for accidentally taking kills as Nami. You get into those situations where your adc gets very low so you use W so they don't die. But because it automatically bounces to the enemy target you can sometimes steal the kill. It doesn't seem to matter that your adc would have died and never even have gotten an assist had you not healed. I actually have been raged at in just the last few days or doing exactly that. Amusingly I intentionally didn't use it in the next fight for that exact reason and my adc died without getting the kill and I got raged at because I didn't heal. Sometimes you just can't win.

MeilinIISep 5, 20166 votes

I feel this in my soul and my overused "/mute" button.[zombie-nunu-tears]

RandomoniumSep 5, 20169 votes

If your ADC gets pissed at you for taking a kill then that shows that he's not confident in his ability to get a CS lead over his opponent. I never get pissed at my support for taking the kill because I know by the time the laning phase ends I'll have 2+ kills worth of CS over my opponent so it doesn't matter if I get a kill or assist.

I do get pissed when the support attacks creeps and messes up my ability to CS though (especially when I'm trying to set up a freeze.)

Electro522Sep 5, 20162 votes

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I do get pissed when the support attacks creeps and messes up my ability to CS though (especially when I'm trying to set up a freeze.)

Doing this takes quite a bit of coordination and if you don't have that, quite a bit of skill on the ADCs part. One of the reasons why laning with Zyra or Heim is so difficult.

My advice would be just to farm best you can. Setting up a freeze in bot lane can be pretty difficult anyway.

ThySituasianSep 5, 20165 votes

and sona ;-; everytime i try to q a enemy there's always that one blue string that its the cs and my adc freaks out xDS

Miss WorthlessSep 6, 20169 votes

Emo former support rant incoming:

Since i started playing at the end of season 1, i've gone through maining many different roles - from support http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e6/SorakaSquare_old.png/revision/latest?cb=20130216213655, to adc Twitch Urgot Draven , to Urgot http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/70/NasusSquare_old.png/revision/latest?cb=20131121041445 http://static.linnun.net/img/champions/120/fiora.png Rengar , to jungle Rengar Mordekaiser Jax , alternatingly. I've experienced every single side there is in league - the flamer, the one trying to patch a team back together, the one muting everyone, the one laughing as the enemy team rips each other to shreds, the one consoling that one opponent that just wanted a casual first game of the day while his team tries to maul each other to death verbally, that awful loss where you do everything in your power to change the course of the battle with seemingly no effect, that game that lasted 70 minutes, that game that lasted 12 minutes, that game where the entire enemy team ragequit - you get the idea.

Out of all these situations, the only one that really gets to me is when a bot lane duo falls apart. When the adc flames the support over something as pointless as who gets a kill - it makes me feel so terribly sad, every time it happens.

Supports are treated like the cleaners/janitors of league - like servants. Its gotten to a point where i almost tear up when a particularly friendly support apologizes after getting a kill.

You are my partner, not my slave. Partners share, period! What would i be without you?

Every adc main should play top lane as their favourite adcs a couple times. They should play support as well, so they will know exactly what it's like.

That'll make them realize just how important their support is to them - and hopefully that they are a valid player just as much as the mid laner or top laner is. Play your favourite adc in a solo lane - you wont notice just how much work the supports do, and how much comfort they bring with their presence, until they're gone.

Who keeps the enemy bot lane duo off you? Who grants vision of that roaming Ahri, or pulls that Rengar off you mid-jump Thresh ? And in return, who kills or scares off that Rengar once he gives up trying to reach you Lucian ? Bot lane is THE duolane past Season 2 - when the other lanes start flaming you, he or she will often be the only pillar of encouragement and support for you to cling on to in the oncoming storm of salt and fire. Taric They're the last player you should think of as an enemy, thus you shouldnt create needless tension by fussing over kills. After all, that first blood your Braum got might net him an early sight stone or face of the mountain, which translates to a much stronger tank that will take on every single other player in the rift to protect you. Damage is nice and all, but its sort of pointless if you dont live long enough to unleash it, isnt it? KogMaw

Personally, i feel acknowledging supports is the reason i ended up in Platinum. Even as a top laner, due to my time as a support main i notice just how much the supports on both teams do - and very few players, even around diamond rank, seem to realize all the work they do. That pentakill Ezreal pulled off with a sliver of health remaining? Did you notice that blind hook Thresh landed on the fleeing Syndra? Did you notice the item 3401 item 3190 shield combo Alistar pulled off to block that bomb detonation from Tristana ? Did you notice how Janna pushed Khazix off you not just once but TWICE in a row?

There are so many examples i can give. From the armor buff Taric provides to the subtle movement speed Janna gives, or item 3105 magic resist aura - there are so many tiny, unnoticeable things these people do for you that more often than you would believe decide the entire outcome of a game!

And this is the person you're going to harrass because they accidentally lasthit the opposing adc, even if you had less than 100 HP and they were fearing for your life?

/rant end.

People need to appreciate the supports more. I hope they will one day get the recognition they deserve. Great post. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

NightmareAmazoXSep 5, 20164 votes

''From a friendly ADC'' That's BS.

(Jk we love you)

Electro522Sep 6, 20162 votes

Hey! They exist!

A LiberalSep 5, 20164 votes

If my adc is a real asshole I'll just leave bot and go support top/mid, whoever is doing worse.

But yeah... I hate when ADC's get upset over a couple minions (Especially in my elo when they can't even get 50% cs anyway). I main Morgana so like... I can't really control if my W is going to kill a minion or not. Same for Sona and Zyra . That said, what I absolutely hate is when the ADC pings caution on me constantly while farming when they are dead. Like sorry, but the 10-12 cs I can get while you are gone really helps me, and it's not like you were going to get it anyway.

bill84Sep 6, 20164 votes

90% of the time, I'll get the assist gold off of it<

That moment when you solo kill and they still flame you for taking their kill.

The DeckownerSep 5, 20163 votes

well TBH as a support main I don't give a fuck about taking kill from my adc, I only apologize to prevent assholes from ragequitting, you know, better safe than sorry.

Solari FortuneSep 5, 20163 votes

Same with me, Take the kills I don't give a shit I still get the assist Take my CS though without a Relic charge and I gonna get a little annoyed

Athenes LuluSep 5, 20163 votes

I'm not a fan of always siding with the support, but your reasoning... good enough.

Trust me, sometimes when supports get early kills, it usually means a free sightstone rush for me and therefore a much higher chance to help win the lane.

Why are ADCs ~~other than Draaaven/Vayne~~ complaining I don't know, if they actually build themselves right they should be able to "KS" their supports very easily later on.

rtbf76109271Sep 5, 20163 votes

Im fine with supports getting kills. All of them. Because honestly at my mmr i have a lot more faith in that sona/zyra/bard damage than a silver vayne that tries to 1v5 repeatedly becuase thats what guys on youtube highlights do

xelakerSep 6, 20163 votes

as a fill (support) player who plays a lot of brand, I constantly have to spam out mb when my adc loses "his kills" to my passive damage that I cant help :/

DukuesSep 6, 20163 votes

Yea honestly if an adc is flaming you for accidentally taking a kill they probably don't know much about the game anyways. Its a good sign just to mute them and move on :).

PaladinNOSep 6, 20163 votes

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aM4RGzPR0NU/sddefault.jpg

As a utility support main, I don't stop attacking the target until it's dead!

Because I've experienced too many times that leaving the ADC to get the kill, our target suddenly finds a way to make a miraculous escape with its remaining 7 HP (or the basic attack that I didn't do).

What I don't do, is taking farm - unless the ADC isn't in the lane, and even then just enough to stall the lane till the ADC gets back.

What I mean is, ofc. I did try to take all your farm, but now I've stopped. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/memes/N3eZoEk7-adc-can-you-give-me-farm?comment=0007

oSEXYPLATYPUSoSep 5, 20162 votes

so i guess my game as Sona going 10-4-16 was ok ?

Electro522Sep 5, 20163 votes

Sona is.......special. Her damage is up there with Zyra and Brand, so, I'd say yes.

RavoreSep 6, 20162 votes

This guy saying supports "God in later stages of the game" Supports depend 100% on their team and they provide mostly CC-stat drains and wards and for that you don't need kills. Apologize for taking kills because it's a mistake and it messes up the gold distribution.

MeBuffULongTimeSep 6, 20169 votes

Thresh Ahhh the ignorance of a non-support...Come everyone! Bask in the ignorance!!!

PaladinNOSep 7, 20162 votes

Bask in the ignorance!!!

http://cdn.litlepups.net/2016/03/09/kitten-in-basket-pics.jpeg

"We are basking indeed. And reading the post above yours, we think more support players are needed. Was good entertainment though. :)"

suicide cerealSep 6, 20164 votes

Um... I'll just leave her here Sona

Mr FidoriSep 6, 20163 votes

ADC: "Okay time to farm som--" Sona poke ADC: "Okay surely now I can--" Sona poke ADC: "Move in for--" Sona poke ADC: "...just get a few--" Sona poke ADC: "maybe just one--" Sona poke ADC: "Well time to back and get a long sword"

Rook LouxSep 6, 20165 votes

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poke ADC: "Well time to back and get a long sword"

It's not called a back if you died XD

RedHorZeSep 6, 20162 votes

Personally I don't mind if it's a kill or two, it happens specially with supps with power spikes or splash damage. I would be embarassed if my supp keeps on killing the enemy. To me, there is something wrong with my mechanics or I need more damage. I would rage if someone blatantly picks a carry champ, use it as a supp, and completely plays it like he's adc... saying "I need to cs too" lol

D3m37r1Sep 6, 20162 votes

Whenever i play adc and the support takes the kill and apologizes, i'm like wtf are you apologizing for? The enemy is dead, that's all that matters.

Crede777Sep 6, 20162 votes

Any decent Support will secure a kill and ignore an ADC who bitches at them for doing so.

The reason why flashing to "steal" a kill is bad isn't because that robs the ADC of gold. It's because you wasted a flash. As a general rule in higher ELO play, you don't use flash offensively. However, if it's one of those rare times where I think it is suitable to flash and I am unsure if we have secured the kill, I will flash to secure it.

The only time I feel kind of bad is when I play Nami and use Ebb and Flow and it gets the last hit. A lot of times it'll look like I saved it to steal the kill, but really I'm casting it essentially off cooldown and then it gets a max range bounce. But even then, that's life.

While the gold and XP from a kill is very nice, the time that an ADC gets to farm essentially uncontested is arguably nicer.

Based MonkSep 6, 20162 votes

This is what happens when you offer a grain of wisdom to fools. Some wise man somebody somewhere sometime said that ADC should get kill if possible because you want to funnel more gold into him so that you can win the game with high sustained damage output killing enemy heroes, destroying towers and taking objectives quickly and efficiently. But ofc noobs took this as "OMG THAT NOOB KS MY KEEL I JUMP OUT OF THE WINDOW".

KeepeSep 6, 20162 votes

Keld support.

Kled Stop takin' your kills? Well I could, city boy, but if I stop goin' after them folks trying to gut your liver and use your kidneys as punching bags, I stop keepin' you alive.

Skaarl noises

Nope. I have no problem with him bein' dead. But as I see things, while he's alive, I can kill MORE trespassers trying to sneak onto mah propertah.

ManiacalCoyoteSep 7, 20162 votes

I've had people b*tch about me "KS"ing when I occasionally venture down from Top Island, and I respond, "I needed the 6 stacks more than you needed the ego boost. Didn't you get the assist gold?"