What do Irelia, Olaf, and Lee Sin have in common?

FalconPawwwwnch··46 votes·2,853 views

They're the only bruisers not shitty enough to be played at worlds

Yorick is disabled Jax sucks Renekton sucks Riven sucks Xin Zhao sucks Aatrox sucks Mordekaiser sucks Shyvana BLOWS Udyr sucks Vi sucks Volibear sucks

you get the idea

53 Comments

Death by Glamour4 votes

Erm ekko...

Also ekko and irelia are perhaps the only two that can survive the likes of gnar who is himself a bruiser.

FalconPawwwwnch8 votes

is a mage/assassin

Irelia Bot5 votes

but everyone plays him and Yasuo like a bruiser kappa

Death by Glamour29 votes

Yeh cause mages build teiforce spirit visage and a crap tonne of armour...

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Maybe he meant "caster"?

No.... That doesn't quite work either. :/

Maybe he was referring to Ekko? Ekko is kind-of a mage... Assassin... Tank... Support... Thing.

LankPants42 votes

Ekko is kind-of a mage... Assassin... Tank... Support... Thing.

The word you're looking for is abomination.

Angry Monster4 votes

still is not strong enough but you are on the right track

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

He's officially (to Riot at least) a Skirmisher, with friends such as Fiora, Yasuo, and Jax.

Ralanr1 votes

Actually he's assassin/fighter. Weird right?

chipndip11 votes

Gnar is a marksman when mini, Vanguard when mega. He's never a fighter.

TFBaam1 votes

marksmen are squishy frozen mallet black cleaver into tank is the opposite of what i just said

chipndip11 votes

So if Lucian builds the same items, would he not be tankier? Your build doesn't decide your class.

Mini Gnar is a marksman. Mega Gnar is a Vanguard.

LankPants4 votes

Whether or not Irelia's actually good enough to see play at worlds is questionable, considering she was an abysmal choice in the game where she was played and was completely useless throughout.

I'd say Hecarim, Rek'sai and probably Gnar are bruisers however.

BakedLotion4 votes

Excuse you, Lee Sin is a bruiser assassin diver initiator dps utility lcsbigplaymaker.

Cavemantero5 votes

Lee Sin. Ranged Melee Tanky DPS Assassin Mage Tank Support and Jungler all wrapped up in one defective man.

BakedLotion1 votes

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Lee Sin. Ranged Melee Tanky DPS Assassin Mage Tank Support and Jungler all wrapped up in one defective man.

you forgot lcsbigplays maker. Shame on you

Requiemsfire2 votes

He's quoting a song off youtube by the Yordles. :P

Thunderspam1 votes

Dude, you forgot that hes blind O.o

Bladerunner77771 votes

My only problem with lee sin is that his ult CD is too short

Other than that he's not really annoying

Blue Moon Wolf3 votes

MonkeyKing : last used in worlds- ??/??/???? :(

Honestly though, I don't feel it's a matter of "how bad they are" (Wukongs win rate alone has been above or just below the 10 spot most of the season), but a matter of "how good are they when they are mastered". Wukong works well at most levels of play, but there isn't much of a learning of a learning curve for him ( think his most complex technique is explained in his champ spotlight >_>) , so people tend to learn how to counter him pretty easily in higher elo matches.

On the other hand, Lee Sin has a pretty decent learning curve and has a lot of potential if you take some time to learn him. Pro's prefer to use the champs with higher skill caps cause they tend to be stronger when they are mastered and harder to counter because of it.

ProfDrDeath2 votes

Competitive is also a matter of:

  • How good they are when behind
  • How versatile the champion is
  • How good the champion is with/against a coordinated team
Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

Wukong is pretty versatile and is great on a coordinated team (still remember one video of a MonkeyKing Orianna Thresh MissFortune combo that was amazing) , though I'm not to sure how he stands when he's behind. I know he lacks a bit in the laning phase and if he suffers a lot from being behind then that could also explain things.

LankPants2 votes

though I'm not to sure how he stands when he's behind.

He's pretty good, he can go full tank and still have a fair impact. The problem with Wukong, as far as I'm aware is that his lane is basically irredeemable. He can't even farm against meta champs like Rumble and Gnar, they can bully him all the way off the wave. If you look at any meta over the last few years this has also been true.

This is why when Wukong has been viable he's been so as a jungler moreso than a top lanner. Jungling allows him to circumvent his weaker than average lane. Even then he needs the right meta, I believe that the meta where Wuk was a viable jungler was something like Kha'zix, Vi and Lee Sin but you could only actually pick Wuk if you banned Lee Sin, which was quite common at the time anyway.

YCitizenSnipsY3 votes

I guess you didn't watch that Irelia game from EDG. At least Olaf and Lee Sin have wins.

TurquoiseYoshi10 votes

Moment of silence for Mouse.

He died again before the moment was over.

JMoormann1 votes

That Gnar and Lee Sin were dirty though.

Bladerunner77771 votes

Irelia isn't fit for LCS I don't think and they are learning the hard way.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

She's a good counterpick against ranged top laners. Unfortunately, the ranged top laners that are meta right now can go even with her and are much more useful than her later in the game when she starts to fall off a little bit. For example, Irelia dumpsters Gnar and Kennen in lane but they are a lot more useful than her for teamfights later on in the game even when behind so it might not be worth it to pick Irelia to beat them in lane if they are just gonna come back and carry later on. Same with Ekko and GP. She completely dumpsters both of them in lane but they are still really useful later on in the game even when put behind.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Nah GP can do fine with irelia and even kill her with some cheesy exhaust and good barrel mechonix. Though i'd say it's a skill matchup and if GP doesn't get a lead she will dumpster him after sheen.

Tychusfindlay9193 votes

Well there is also gnar.

Riot fucked up. I mean, a ranged bruiser... How much more retarded can things get?

Akali is SO HOT9 votes

Graves

it be lìke that3 votes

you are single-handedly leading the charge against graves.

i respect it.

Irelia Bot3 votes

He is the new lee sin

He excels at everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXxcpaCr1hw

Toru Itai3 votes

I still hate Lee Win more.

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

Yeah he's op

Pale Pirate2 votes

Well, better nerf Irelia.

Sire Hippington2 votes

I'd call gnar a bruiser aswell. Though one could call gnar many things, like for example "god damn annoying bastard" and it would all be correct....

Also, if you count in Irelia and her one loss, Kled should be mentioned aswell.

ABSINTHEged2 votes

I hate them?

Toru Itai2 votes

at least you're honest.

Dengeden1 votes

Kled

hOrnn1 votes

give it time, youll see Darius

morris11 votes

Is Darius starting to develop Teal disease like Fizz?

Thunderspam1 votes

Fizz

it be lìke that1 votes

im still waiting for Darius Karma Lulu Kayle dunklord combo.

Snowplosion1 votes

Is Gnar just a tank now, or is he still a bruiser? Also Kled was played and will never be played again. Also Hecarim is a bruiser, right? So, you were saying.?

warpenguin5551 votes

Skarner was played but idk if he is more of a tank

Solitair1 votes

Who in their right mind wants Irelia and Olaf to be good picks? These guys are overloaded nightmares if you give them even an inch

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Olaf is meh. Either he turns into this literally unkillable and unstoppable murderer running over your frontline straight to the backline with not a scratch or he will end up as an axe throwing bot/use ult to run away bot. From what i've seen on worlds so far is that olaf is trash.

Solitair1 votes

That's the problem: when he's strong, he's just entirely uncounterable. That's why he was nerfed into oblivion(so badly he inspired the phrase "getting olaf'd") when a pro player abused Olaf some time ago. He has to be mediocre, because pros are too good with him. As for Irelia, she will stat-check you, is designed to out-trade you because you out-traded her, and can tower dive with impunity way too early on. Her kit is the epitome of overloaded.

xxxDogmanxxx1 votes

Volibear sucks?

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