Looking into the new keystone/rune as a diamond Darius main.

greekvandaL··5 votes·808 views

For the love of Draven do not overtune a new bruiser keystone for the sake of making us Bruiser players strong again. I as a Darius player DO NOT WANT to further promote the powercreep in the game by getting like 200+ bonus dmg and extra true dmg. I mean SURE i wanna have a viable main so i can climb back to decent elo and not be mid diamond but not by playing Trinity steraks (conqueror)new mastery and doing 1000+ dmg W procs to an adc for it. (even tho that shitty role does the same and from range)

In my oppinion bringing back fervor the ACTUAL fervor is a really good choice instead of expirementing with such a hard to baalnce keystone.

Also this keystone will 100% break low elo and you are going to either...

1:Gut it 2:Remove it 3:Gut abusers/champs that synergise .

I already have 2-3 strong abusers of it in my mind and considering you listen A LOT to low tier players for no reason imo i do not want this to be the reason my Darius gets nerfbatted into oblivion. Spending the entire preaseason without my champ was already boring i dont want another year of him beeing shafted or made harder to use with gimpy changes..( looking at you Zoe/Graves/Ornn ).

Do proper balancing on this keystone we do NOT need further powercreep instead try to TONE DOWN the top of the food chain champions with small tweaks and see where it goes.

I'm open to discussion about it both to Darius cause it looks it's gonna synergise INSANELY well with him and bruisers in general.

[darius-angry]

PBE UPDATE: LVL 18 DARIUS. With MY build. item 3078 item 3053 item 3026 item 1001 item 3065 item 3143 build. You accumilate a total of 579 ad.

I can see this as to a dumb adc beeing hit for aproximatly 2K+ dmg from a W-R/P: ticks exactly a total off : 940 W 1113 R passive to bored and sleepy to count.. TO AN 100 ARMOR TARGET aka the base ad with tabis atm at 18 aproximatly.

Also the rune doesnt seem that overpowered due to the stacking nature it has i can see it beeing further increased into 5 seconds but it might be a bit much because you WILL get oneshotted in 5 seconds easily atm . This is with MY BUILD.

Now we the average tanky Darius build item 3071 item 1001 item 3065 item 3143 item 3075 item 3193 You moved to 479 ad ( a big difference but you are also pretty unkillable like this if they are not all at 6 items ) and the combo does around 2k dmg. W:514 R:1005 specificly 1970 dmg to an 100 armor target with a FLASH W/R/P:ticks. 361 W 1005 R and i'm too sleepy to keep track of the passive sorry..;p it's 4:30AM.

My oppinion? low elo nightmare right here. BUT i personally dont care if it stomp low tiers but you do at riot so you aproximatly gonna gut it at its current state. Now for D5+ I see this as like it atm with my build you rely on them to fuck up with 1: Poor tank engage aka free stacks 2: Pick = free passive with R 3: Get raped because you wont get in range and get oneshotted High risk build in this meta.

With the tank build its the same as the above but you can live a tiny bit longer lawl.Might be better to go tank if the numbers dont get shafted.

12 Comments

Death by Glamour1 votes

They are taking the easy route as always rather than dealing with botlane outscaling thanks to cheap items and jungle clears being far to easy and having easy ganks thanks to tank locldown potential.

greekvandaL1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pink Leg Warmers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klIjPIb8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-22T02:24:57.682+0000)

They are taking the easy route as always rather than dealing with botlane outscaling thanks to cheap items and jungle clears being far to easy and having easy ganks thanks to tank locldown potential.

Don't know how it's gonna work no that i tested a few minor numbers on him in terms of it'sgonna be insanely broken for low tiers yet i still see darius beeing hard to pull of in major ranks.

Death by Glamour1 votes

Low tier? My plat 3 accounts games are as bad as this silvers lol.

Darius keeps popping up in regards to this but im more worried about fiora tbh.

Shuriman Curator1 votes

I played 2 games so far as Darius on the PBE, first game with Black Cleaver/tank and the second game with triforce/steraks.

Awesome as hell tbh, maybe a bit on the strong side.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Why would you get GA or stoneplate on Dar, that synergy's horrible...

Although... True dmg bypasses the stoneplate dmg reduc, so that could also be something nice to abuse.

Yeah, needs nerfs, Darius will literally abuse the crap out of the "in-combat refresh" clause.

greekvandaL1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ðownright Darius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klIjPIb8,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-22T09:29:14.420+0000)

Why would you get GA or stoneplate on Dar, that synergy's horrible...

Although... True dmg bypasses the stoneplate dmg reduc, so that could also be something nice to abuse.

Yeah, needs nerfs, Darius will literally abuse the crap out of the "in-combat refresh" clause.

GA is needed with my build because you look to get stacks and instantly jump into the back line or simply flank and tru to burst the adc..

Stoneplate is good casue you can get to your stacks and apply it to everyone with the extra tankiness to help your team win the fight.

Troll for Trump1 votes

[{quoted}](name=silver 5 btw,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klIjPIb8,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-02-22T12:10:30.126+0000)

GA is needed with my build because you look to get stacks and instantly jump into the back line or simply flank and tru to burst the adc..

Stoneplate is good casue you can get to your stacks and apply it to everyone with the extra tankiness to help your team win the fight.

Ga doesn't give good offensive or defensive stats. In addition, a HUGE weakness to GA that makes it completely garbage on Darius is that the revive time resets his passive. Sure, you get 5 stacks before you die. But the stats are crap, and, when you revive, you'll need to get 5 stacks again. Not worth it.

Stoneplate does make Darius tankier but he doesn't get to do anything with that tankiness. Unlike a real tank, he offers much less help to the team by just sitting there as a punching bag. His value is being able to deal dmg; if you want someone to be tanky, the obvious choice is to just literally pick a tank.

greekvandaL1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ðownright Darius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klIjPIb8,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-02-23T08:32:03.342+0000)

Ga doesn't give good offensive or defensive stats. In addition, a HUGE weakness to GA that makes it completely garbage on Darius is that the revive time resets his passive. Sure, you get 5 stacks before you die. But the stats are crap, and, when you revive, you'll need to get 5 stacks again. Not worth it.

Stoneplate does make Darius tankier but he doesn't get to do anything with that tankiness. Unlike a real tank, he offers much less help to the team by just sitting there as a punching bag. His value is being able to deal dmg; if you want someone to be tanky, the obvious choice is to just literally pick a tank.

You go GA because you are more than likely gonna either get a reset and force em to back to insta die from a single cc thus GA is good. Stoneplate is a niche item only for when you simply wanna go in and buy a few seconds for your adc to clean up becuz no defence item other than that will help you at 4 item carries status

LyingOnLine1 votes

Fervor was boring as shit and had the exact same problem.

Triumphant Glory1 votes

[garen-swing] I'll leave now :')

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8FwWyr3Go , Look at the true damage dealt in end of game stats. :)

greekvandaL1 votes

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[garen-swing] I'll leave now :')

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8FwWyr3Go , Look at the true damage dealt in end of game stats. :)

Haha ik i've already played it went 30-0 xd

Triumphant Glory1 votes

[{quoted}](name=silver 5 btw,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klIjPIb8,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-02-23T14:47:53.223+0000)

Haha ik i've already played it went 30-0 xd

hahaha xD

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