Can We Agree About One Thing

EnigmaticMachine·2/8/2020, 8:18:20 AM·2 votes·1,004 views

That whoever gets the least monkeys in an LOL game especially in mid or jungle, that team will win. Like come on. Who here has lost most of their games to really poor mid laners and junglers. You know the mid laner who died 4 times trying to constantly hard push while getting ganked 24/7. You know the jungler who doesnt know how to gank or goes a farm jungler and you proceed to lose 3 early game drags or one rift. I think we all know how dependent a win is with these two roles being actually useful. A solid mid laner and jungler can help secure drags bot side. A good mid laner will roam top side for rift or early to mid game kills. A solid jungler will prio ganks early and farm afterwards. Two roles are making or breaking this game. It is kind of dumb.

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ElnyrJhodo2/8/2020, 9:09:40 AM1 votes

I don't think its the roles, I mean, its a piece, for sure.

There is a far far far bigger issue, and you said what it was... its stupid fucks in elos they don't belong.

In combination with riot doing nothing, absolutely shit nothing, about trolling in all forms.

Trolling is not just out of control, its encouraged by riots system. Say something, get fucked.

Don't get me wrong, riot has tons of stuff that is amazing. Most of what they do is amazing actually. However in its current state, league is pretty much unplayable. Its certainly not fun, just frustrating.

Personally I think they don't ban more because it would actually CRUSH their numbers.

There are SO MANY trolls, it would probly delete like 25% of their playerbase. I'm not even sure that number is exaggerated, seriously. Thats only 2.5 players per game, I VERY often have 2 trolls just on my team. VERY often, very very often. If they aren't trolling, they have no idea what they are doing, or are drunk or high or something- which is trolling to me. Trolling/greifing is ruining the game. Through play or intent.

If its through play, they should be in a lower elo. If its intent, they shouldn't be in the game at all. I don't give a fuck how many accounts you ban, just fucking ban or disable ranked or something. None of this chat restriction bullshit garbage. It does absolutely nothing but FURTHER frustrate players.

All this reformed shit is lies. They just change the way they say it. Its 'weird' instead of 'trash', 'interesting' instead of 'what the fuck was that'. The language has changed but the fucking intent is all the same. Its all just a bunch of turd painting. Its still a turd, I'm fucking sick of bullshit.

Cia Is My Waifu2/8/2020, 9:42:42 AM1 votes

I only really have the jungler perspective. I play a farm jungler (Evelynn) which means my impact starts at 6, which is 7:30 game time usually with all the farming required. I'll usually gank once or twice in that time if lanes are pushed and willing. A flash charm usually nets a kill on anyone half health or pushed up and really squishy.

But here's the shit I deal with or wish the laners did/understood. If I clear my botside jungle and am about to do wolves, then bot spam pings for me to run down and gank their lane when its either in the center or pushed up to their turret while theyre low on health, I will usually ignore them and keep farming. Reason for this is 3fold.

  1. Almost all the times I listen to these pings and waste my time running down there, the enemy bot just backs up randomly, the lane gets pushed out, or all 3 of us just die or almost die because bot lane is low on health and fights anyway or gets outplayed.

  2. It puts me behind. The time it takes to run bot, get nothing out of it, and run back to wolves, means I have an even longer wait to hit 6. So instead of 7:30 I might now be waiting til 8 or 9. Meanwhile the solo laners will have 2 or 3 levels on me and be near impossible to kill alone when it would be easier otherwise.

  3. It means the enemy jungler can invade my shit, take the scuttle crabs for free, I dont get to put down my river wards to keep track of them, and my spawn timers get out of whack. I want to avoid this headache because it makes me lose.

So for shit laners can do for me. When you see J4 invading a buff level 2 or 3, come collapse on him and miss a few CS. I can understand if youve got a huge wave under turret, thats basically kill gold, but for 20-30 seconds of your time, we can usually get a kill since the bastard is deep in our territory. This puts the one who's most likely to fuck with you behind. Makes him weaker, and makes all of us stronger. Kills are EXP.

If the enemy jungler is stronger than me and contesting scuttle crab, come walk over for 10 seconds and help me get it. Whether zoning or killing them it doesnt take long and we only stand to gain from it. More vision, jungler is behind, less ganks on you.

Now for dragons, since this shit has been really obnoxious lately. I am more than happy to take dragons, I usually hover near it post 6 or plan to be there with my pathing whenever its a minute to, same for rift herald. But when the enemy team groups up, keeps it all pink warded, and then bot and mid either die, back, or just stay farming, it is very fucking hard for me to take every dragon reliably. Sometimes ill die trying as I get 4v1d then spam pinged because no one bothered with objectives but me. Supports or AD should have that shit perma warded from the point it spawns until its dead if they want it taken. Mid and bot should also be there to fight.

For herald, both top and mid can take it just as easily as I can. And yet 90% of the time its me doing it along with dragon, the ganks everyone is so desperate for, and my own camps. I cant be everywhere, but it fucks things up when the enemy jungle gets herald, so I usually have to get it first. If you can take herald for me, take herald.

Last thing, when asking for ganks, look at my health and my position. If im midway into clearing a camp with 30% health, I dont want to stop what im doing, run 20 seconds in your direction just to give a double kill or have them run away and waste my time. I plan ganks on my terms, I path toward a lane and take camps when there is no good chance, and move into position before starting one if there is a good opportunity. I cant play firefighter every time someone takes a bad trade.

Malix Farwin2/8/2020, 5:38:43 PM1 votes

Typically there 2 things i need to win in these lower elos. I need to play a pug stomping champion in a pug stomping role and i need at least 1 other lane to win. The rest can be monkeys and it does not matter.