Graves nerf

FalconPawwwwnch·Sep 20, 2016·43 votes·2,176 views

Graves Quickdraw (E) Armor and MR reduced to 5/8/11/14/17 from 10/15/20/25/30

God Bless, maybe now he won't be tankier than most melee champs

37 Comments

AstôlfoSep 20, 20167 votes

Where is this?

Also thank the heavens.

BesthunterjkSep 20, 20165 votes

Maybe they will nerf Illaoi next...

AstôlfoSep 20, 20166 votes

??? Why would they?

BesthunterjkSep 20, 20166 votes

I was just poking fun at you because you were raging like a madman in hatedaddys thread about illaoi

AstôlfoSep 20, 20165 votes

It's just hilarious - and sometimes irritating - when kids cry about Illaoi because they're bad and don't know how to play against her :P

BesthunterjkSep 20, 20161 votes

I won't start arguing again.

If Riot decides to nerf her, there's anyway nothing anyone can do about it

AstôlfoSep 20, 20161 votes

Well yeah, that applies to any champion anyways. :P

EROTIC RAID BOSSSep 21, 20161 votes

generally you gotta be really good in competitive or really good in like plat to get nerfed. illaoi isn't really either one

AbyssphereSep 21, 20161 votes

She's actually the 3rd best top laner on champion.gg right now.

AFK PushSep 21, 20163 votes

That's pretty much how I felt about when they nerfed the crap out of Sion when everything on his kit is telegraphed very well.

#JustMove

It Hertz When IPSep 21, 20162 votes

That sounds kinda complicated, not sure if people are going to be able to perform such a complex countering move.

MunchCrunchLunchSep 22, 20161 votes

JustMove is more like

LEAVE LANE. LET HER TAKE YOUR T1,T2 INHIB NEXUS AND WIN THE GAME.

Warlord ZudaneSep 21, 20161 votes

PBE, look here at surrenderat20

Can't wait for it.

FallenSeruvimSep 21, 20161 votes

I see nothing about Illaio at all <_<?

HyperiönSep 21, 20161 votes

This is about graves. Not illi.

GULAG 4 USep 21, 20163 votes

Hold the fuck up a second, grave's e gave him fucking 30 armor and MR?

WTF?

Per stack?

EROTIC RAID BOSSSep 21, 20161 votes

I wanna say they got rid of the stacking mechanic awhile ago

GULAG 4 USep 21, 20161 votes

BUT THAT'S 240 FREE STATS? WTF?!

EROTIC RAID BOSSSep 21, 20161 votes

"I wanna say they got rid of the stacking mechanic awhile ago"

GULAG 4 USep 21, 20161 votes

They did? It's still there according to wiki

WimbledofySep 21, 20162 votes

they didn't

GrReaper96Sep 21, 20161 votes

Actually 30 X 4 = 120 armor and mr. So now hes capped at 17 X 4 = 68

GULAG 4 USep 21, 20161 votes

Patch went live already? It was in 6.19?

HyperiönSep 21, 20161 votes

Its in the next patch.

RimgonSep 21, 20162 votes

nah, it's still there. I played him the other day from the free rotation

Chad Te EmployeeSep 21, 20162 votes

Please no, it really takes 3 e's to get good armor and that takes awhile any engaging top roughs him up before he gets tanky and in team fights not really useful. Besides you have other problems then nerfing graves

GULAG 4 USep 21, 20164 votes

Ehh I'm sorry how is it balanced to have 120 free stats at level 13 for spamming a mobility spell that reloads your gun?

MunchCrunchLunchSep 21, 20162 votes

he vapes now

FlitcheeSep 21, 20161 votes

In an actual teamfight that is not going poorly, you're only likely to get 1 or 2 dashes max, when you get more than that it is because the fight is a lost or losing one. CD only reduced if you AA, and has an average cd without any autos.

GULAG 4 USep 21, 20161 votes

You can stack it before you know. Yasuo doesn't enter a teamfight without Q stacks.

AstôlfoSep 21, 20161 votes

Or, a fucking ranged drain tank with massive damage and AOE/mobility with no meaningful cooldowns is a bad idea?

SlntReaperSep 21, 20162 votes

Maybe they will give him his cigar back for compensation?

tooomineSep 21, 20162 votes

And graves is officially no longer able to function in the bot lane.

You will be missed, former ADC. I hope you enjoy your time being garbage at top lane/jungle.

OnanThaManSep 21, 20161 votes

"Every champion has their time in the spotlight before we nerf them to make room for others" -Rito

Graves deserved it, he shouldn't gain more bonus armor from a ability than Malphite/Taric.

tooomineSep 22, 20161 votes

I have to disagree. that's called being a unique champ, and filling a diverse champion aesthetic.

I7A6X2v2Sep 21, 20162 votes

Nice, now he is no longer a Marksman/Tank.

MunchCrunchLunchSep 21, 20161 votes

even though. its understandable why they nerfed him.

this will dumpster him. thats the only. thing he had going for him. his autos don't go through units. and structues. he has to be close. mid and late game. to do significant damage. and his E what made him strong. i agree its bullshit that he gets to do that much damage and outduel most. while being a drain tank adc. but they have to compensate him somehow.