We need an "Out of Mana" ping

Valhalla Rising·Nov 29, 2014·130 votes·5,921 views

we just do.

113 Comments

SilentOppressorNov 30, 201437 votes

From all the supports with dive-happy carries, rito please.

A Slime AppearsNov 30, 201411 votes

If the carry cannot see that your blue bar lacks blue (you know, the bar that's in the middle of their fucking screen because you guys are near each other), an out of mana ping will not save you.

CaesarFlickermanNov 30, 20141 votes

and there the fuck it is.

Woook3rNov 30, 20144 votes

No. That blue bar is hard to make out. The eye is designed to alert the brain to sudden changes. The blue bar does not change suddenly. Yes it would be better if all players constantly kept the blue bar in mind. MUCH better. You need that info to plan ahead.

However, I think more pings could be useful. I want a good job ping. A smily or heart or something.

Although, to be honest, I use the red ping for out of mana. SO maybe we do have this covered.

CaesarFlickermanDec 3, 20141 votes

Honestly, that's more of a skill thing, as attention to detail is an element of skill, such as knowing cooldowns you can't see and so on. Meh.

ImWaterlemonCatDec 2, 20141 votes

and then, you decide to build AP and use mana for yourself

ZyyyZNov 30, 20142 votes

Can't dispute this, but then there's that big ass mini map taking up 1/8 of their screen (if max out) and they still won't look so what chance is that small blue bar has?

TyriusNov 30, 201415 votes

I still wish there was a "lol" ping.

CythieusNov 30, 201410 votes

I just want to second this. I get these carries and jungles who just want to ping they're coming and run out and then are all like "Why didn't you jump in?" Like I'm going to be slinging all that hurt with Lux's auto attack.

BowlboNov 30, 20148 votes

or type OOM in chat

Nepetian QCNov 30, 20145 votes

And have to move our hands out of 'QWER' position? No thanks.

FluxBoundNov 30, 201429 votes

what? do you plan on using those abilities?

The Epicer ONeNov 30, 20145 votes

rekt

ShadowParkerNov 30, 20142 votes

Apply Lotion to Burned Area.

Samflash3Dec 1, 20144 votes

Even I felt that burn!

RookPusherNov 30, 20144 votes

This assumes they'll read it while diving in. They can't divert their eyes, but they can divert their ears. A ping is a genius idea.

BowlboNov 30, 20142 votes

They shouldn't be diving if they see their teammates empty mana bar. I only type OOM when I am concerned that they are neglecting to read chat, based on their positioning. But it should really be an ADC's responsibility to watch their lane partner's mana pool, just as it is the support's job to do so for the ADC.

RookPusherNov 30, 20144 votes

Mmm, no. The game is won by minimizing mistakes, which is achieved largely by knowledge sharing and communication. If you're spending time (as small as it may be) looking at mana bars before you make decisions, you're more susceptible to attacks and you're more likely to miss opportunities.

What we're talking about here is the economy of senses. I need my eyes to be looking for threats and openings. By allowing the "no mana" sound to exist, we convey they same information as either OOM or checking a mana bar, without compromising eye sight.

BlackMambo00Nov 30, 20142 votes

Jesus I am glad someone understands. The whole point of the pings and updated displays is to minimize the things that move your attention from the action in a match. Since you should already be checking your life, gold, min map, spawn timers, minion locations, enemy and team locations, and tons of other things, not having to check allied mana bars would make it easier for people trying to actually pay attention do so. Typing OOM is fine sure, but if i am in the middle of a fight i am not looking in chat, and if i look at the map and see you close by, Having a ping to tell me why you are running away and help me decide on my next action would be nice.

RoyaiChaosNov 30, 20147 votes

We need a "Rito Please" ping

SookoNov 30, 20146 votes

Brace yourselves... OOM Ping spamming Lee Sins and Garens are coming.

2pudge1cupNov 30, 20143 votes

And use that as an excuse to help themselves to blue buff

Jeddy017Nov 30, 20145 votes

We also need a "warded" ping.

FluxBoundNov 30, 20142 votes

we need many pings, except the danger one

blujadajhdjaNov 30, 20142 votes

we need many pings, except the danger one

Agreed, that ping's pretty much useless. When you do use it, half the time, players think that you're pinging them to head over and don't even understand that it's a "danger" ping.

rinsujoDec 1, 20141 votes

we need many pings, except the danger one

disagree. I like having the danger ping as an option, but we're up to 8 useful pings now (OMW, help, mia, danger, target, plus we could use "plz ward here", "enemy ward here" and now OOM) it's starting to get a little crazy. soon i'm going to have to completely rebind my keyboard so my hand is closer to the middle to use all these.

FluxBoundDec 1, 20141 votes

We have the up smartping and the V ping, they both go "X signals to be careful"

rinsujoDec 2, 20141 votes

v ping doesn't post anything in chat, smartping does. also, generally I use v as "i'm leaving" and danger as "someone's coming, you're going to die, gtfo."

FluxBoundDec 3, 20141 votes

Actually, V does post in chat

BleedissNov 29, 20144 votes

Don't forget 'Out of Energy'.

CryypterNov 30, 20142 votes

Don't forget 'Out of Energy'.

Energy regens quickly enough to not really need a separate ping.

Watch9Nov 30, 20143 votes

Not if your a Zed who was dealing with a Zhonyas with no energy

EDIT: It was a joke

Jungle Lux GodNov 30, 20144 votes

I personally think this would be a cool but unnecessary addition simply because saying you are out of mana doesn't really say anything. I personally ping "danger" when I'm low on mana and my jungler/support/ADC wants to go in, and it tells them that I need to back and for them to not go in. It does the same thing without cluttering the ping indicator.

XonraNov 30, 20143 votes

I personally think this would be a cool but unnecessary addition simply because saying you are out of mana doesn't really say anything. I personally ping "danger" when I'm low on mana and my jungler/support/ADC wants to go in, and it tells them that I need to back and for them to not go in. It does the same thing without cluttering the ping indicator.

Actually doesn't tell them anything but danger.

I see people use the "Danger" ping for

"don't take that cs I want it" but don't say anything "get away from my buff" but won't say it "there is someone in that bush" but say nothing as to why they are pinging "out of mana" but say nothing

I see people ping the danger when you get hit by cc as if that ping will save your teammate after they are caught (still the person's fault for being caught but so not the point)

The point is the "DangeR" ping is NOT helpful usually. People just ping to ping sometimes and rarely say what it is and you are left to assume to either run or leave. Hell two days ago I had someone pinging danger on my top laners tower so I left assuming I was getting ganked, then yelled at me because it was them apparently telling me go go go to kill it...but they were using the danger ping and said nothing after.

The danger ping is crap lol No one ever uses it right let alone for the same things.

So just because YOU think it means don't go in doesn't mean it conveys that message to your team, they just think you are pinging danger at the enemy team and could assume it means 70 different things when you are just saying you are oom.

Jungle Lux GodNov 30, 20142 votes

Actually, "don't go in" is the exact message I convey when I use the danger ping. I ping "danger" when I'm oom, and then leave. I tell my team that I have to leave, and then they have to be careful.

A lot of what you seem to be saying is the danger ping being used poorly, and I understand that, but that doesn't mean that the danger ping doesn't accurately convey a message to your team.

ScalyManChardNov 30, 20144 votes

New ping wheel.

"Not Ready / Cannot Engage" (for OOM or CDs or whatever) "Engaging" "Warded / Enemy Has Vision" "Go/Check Here" (for when you run to help your ally, only for him to run in the opposite direction - or if a low health enemy runs into your jungle)

YavimawaNov 30, 20142 votes

Would be great to have those pings. Many times I had to stretch my brain to save my ADC when they engage while I'm trying to disengage because I'm OOM or no wrads and no vision. "OMG dude why no help?!" "I had 100 hp and no mana..." too often...

Long Dong WukongNov 30, 20144 votes

We need V and V+drag being one set of pings, and G and G+drag being another set of pings. It's not too complicated by any means and gives tons more communication in solo Q.

V being defensive and G being offensive seems simple enough. Out of mana, Warded, Danger, Assist me, MIA etc. on V, and then Ward here, On My Way, Ult in X seconds, etc. on G.

Gib pls rito

rinsujoDec 1, 20141 votes

I actually have my pings mapped to my arrow keys, dragging just seems like such a pain.

Long Dong WukongDec 2, 20141 votes

You move your hand to the opposite side of the keyboard instead of instantly pinging with V/G + Drag?

rinsujoDec 2, 20141 votes

My hand knows where the arrow keys without looking. I can never seem to find v/g without taking my eyes off the screen, and i'd rather not risk my flash by blindly trying keys.

Long Dong WukongDec 3, 20141 votes

Yeah but you're taking your hand away from your skills and V/G are right next to all of your other hotkeys.

I don't care what you do or anything but that's crazy bruh

Tis a nice dayNov 30, 20142 votes

Do we have an "out of health" ping? :p

TheKingDodoNov 30, 20142 votes

They should just make mana bar slightly thicker so your allies can actually visually estimate how much mana/resource you really have.

xGvPxNov 30, 20142 votes

Ahri Tryn, why didn't you ult?! Tryndamere Out of mana Ahri ... LeeSin 2ez summoner 11

CrossFire2114Nov 30, 20142 votes

Out of Resources/Cool Down. Remove the blaring red exclamation. I hate the sound. Make it point to their health bars not wonder what they think is so dangerous. I don't think is causes anything but rage and toxicity. Should be reinvented, it would be nice to have a new ping for a hot - key only. That's not blaring and annoying.