I orginally though galio rework was fine... I have since changed my mind

SwiftKitten88·Mar 27, 2017·1 votes·1,210 views

I've played a few games against galio... prob 5-10 unranked games against him... never had any issues. didnt really think he was an issue.

i play ranked game... galio literally punches me for 70% of my hp.. and then Qs me to kill me in about .3 seconds.

like... out of fucking nowhere and im like... WAIT...WUT????

So yeah originally didnt think he was going to be an issue... but after that game... i think the only reason his winrate isn't through the roof is because a bunch of people are still trying him out... (which i probably didn't help by making this thread), but since I'm banning him every game from now on, the faster people (specifically riot) realize how broken he is right now.. the better.

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DynikusMar 27, 20172 votes

So he was a problem in 1/11 games you played against him, so he's OP? If you're referring to the game you played nidalee and he went 12/6, he built full AP. Obviously he's gonna do a lot of damage with item 1414 item 3152 item 3100 item 3089 item 3041 item 3158 when your only MR was item 1057 31 minutes into a 32 minute game.

Btw just a side note, bruiser nidalee is what most people are going now. instead of lich bane, abyssal scepter would have been a better item to build.

SwiftKitten88Mar 27, 20171 votes

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So he was a problem in 1/11 games you played against him, so he's OP? If you're referring to the game you played nidalee and he went 12/6, he built full AP. Obviously he's gonna do a lot of damage with when your only MR was 31 minutes into a 32 minute game.

Btw just a side note, bruiser nidalee is what most people are going now. instead of lich bane, abyssal scepter would have been a better item to build.

yeah well the reason he GOT so fed was that NOBODY on my team expected his damage output.. as i clearly stated in my OP.. i was completely shocked at his damage as he pretty much 1 shot me in 0.3 second.

you can certainly argue i wasn't building defensively vs him. But like i said i wasn't EXPECTING him to 1 shot me.

sadly i cant view match history online right now... I'm not sure why...

also... no... bruiser nidalee is while noob copycats who think they can pull of what LirA did go... LirA is an amazing nidalee player. and u idoit should stop thinking just because a pro player builds AD nid for one game when they had an ziggs bot to help the the fact that they have no adc... that its the "best" nidalee build.

"MOST people are NOT going bruiser nidalee. its NOT viable outside VERY specific circumstances" only noobs who try to copycat the pros because they have no original thoughts for themselves do that.

and if u are going to try to argue that point with a 1500 game nid main... your going to lose that fight.

DynikusMar 27, 20171 votes

I didn't say AD nidalee. Maybe that's the wrong nomenclature. I meant bruiser as in offensive and defensive stats, which people have been building for a long time before lira pulled out ad nidalee. ROA, iceborn gauntlet, abyssal scepter, zhonya's, merc treads or tabis, etc. Assassin build still works, but definitely isn't as effective.

SwiftKitten88Mar 27, 20171 votes

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I didn't say AD nidalee. Maybe that's the wrong nomenclature. I meant bruiser as in offensive and defensive stats. ROA, iceborn gauntlet, abyssal scepter, zhonya's, merc treads or tabis, etc. Assassin build still works, but definitely isn't as effective.

item 3027 has never been an effective buy on nidalee. for the sole reason of the stacking effect... nidalee is an early-mid game champ.. you would need to sacrifce your biggest powerspike to get roa an any decent time (which would be right after runic)

THIS is why the removal of streangth of ages AND the gutting of item 3116 hurt nidalee so much... nidalee didnt have a damn about the slow on she built it for the ap and the hp..

becuase even though AP have a SHIT TON of ap + hp items they ALL sucked on nidalee EXCEPT rylias (before it was gutted) item 3030 is bad becuase he does not need chase she needs escape and the active is neraly 100% worthless on her when building ap. therefore the cost is ineffecient item 3152 has a similar issue... she is mobile.. she does NOT need another mobility ability so again its not cost efficent item 3151 is bad because nid has no form of cc and therefor cannot make use of this

the reson why rylias was CORE on her was becuase 400 hp and 100 ap were GREAT and it gave an ability that nidlee could use which was a slow she could use at spear range.

when rylias lost the ap and HP it now AGAIN was only usful for those champ who ABUSE the active.

a normal nidalee build is now item 1410 item 3158 item 3100 item 3157 item 3001 and the last item is either item 3135 or item 3089 but honestly her biggest powerspike is right when she finishes

every item after that is just trying to keep her viable

item 3025 DOES give more armor and DOES allow her to build boots other than item 3158 but you sacrifice your BEST item of item 3100
without it you will NOT even be 1 shotting squishes. and no matter what you build your endgame will be bad...

DynikusMar 27, 20171 votes

Roa I got from a masters nidalee one trick and gave it a shot and had success with it myself, but I can understand not wanting to build it. And I see iceborn built a lot more frequently than lichbane now, but ultimately it's personal preference which you build. Neither is really wrong, they just have different advantages.

SwiftKitten88Mar 27, 20171 votes

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Roa I got from a masters nidalee one trick and gave it a shot and had success with it myself, but I can understand not wanting to build it. And I see iceborn built a lot more frequently than lichbane now, but ultimately it's personal preference which you build. Neither is really wrong, they just have different advantages.

yeah item 3025 + item 3047 have gone up in popularity over item 3100 + item 3158 when lethality was broken. its STILL crazy strong but not quite "broken" anymore.

So in general item 3100 is a better buy again. but yeah a few patches ago item 3025 WAS more effective because damage didnt matter if you died mid air while pouncing toward them. (and you really WOULD die mid are before you landed vs some champs... it was that bad.)

thing is the people who DON'T play nidalee and are just copycats are slow to realize WHY it changed to item 3025 ... and therefor are slow to change back to item 3100 after the lethality "nerf"

becuase guess what.. when they watch pros... they are a patch behind XD

RalanrMar 27, 20171 votes

So people who didn't respect someone's damage output got stomped and then further stomped when he built more damage?

NarvuntienMar 27, 20171 votes

He appears to have a lot of burst but very little sustained damage which is very strange for a tank. He can set up a combo and kill you but if you dodge it he is out of damage for awhile even with CDR.

It is kind of similar to someone like Alistar rather than the typical top lane tanks Nautilus Poppy Maokai who are much more tenatious hang around dealing damage.

The Lost MarblesMar 27, 20171 votes

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He appears to have a lot of burst but very little sustained damage which is very strange for a tank. He can set up a combo and kill you but if you dodge it he is out of damage for awhile even with CDR.

It is kind of similar to someone like rather than the typical top lane tanks who are much more tenatious hang around dealing damage.

I assume Galio has more burst than usual because his kit heavily leans towards counter-engaging rather than him starting a fight himself.

Thus, they wanted him to have a greater impact at the moment of the counter-engage rather than gradually wearing the opposition down from the start like other tanks.

Just if I had to guess.

lolipopevelynnMar 27, 20171 votes

his Q is a bit overtuned. chunks half of ur HP at lvl 1 if you misstep... and it continues to does this as he maxes it first because it scales very hard. only real counter to it as a midlaner is to build HP and MR otherwise you are going to get cheesed hard.

SwiftKitten88Mar 28, 20171 votes

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his Q is a bit overtuned. chunks half of ur HP at lvl 1 if you misstep... and it continues to does this as he maxes it first because it scales very hard. only real counter to it as a midlaner is to build HP and MR otherwise you are going to get cheesed hard.

it was actually his punch that got me for 70% of my hp