Some ideas for a more exciting Leblanc

The Bearded Bard··1 votes·381 views

Been playing a lot of Leblanc lately and I've been doing pretty well at it, but as fun as it is, I think her kit is kind of lacking. Basically you win early on due to counterplay that's situational at best (you either chug health potions while she slaps you with the QW every time you try to farm, or you don't farm. Short of having a dash/knockup of your own to use to avoid/disrupt her QW combo, there is nothing else you can do.) Then late game comes and everyone has some defenses that she can't bust through unless she's incredibly fed. Squishies sit nice and safe behind tanks with cc that your easily disrupted W just straight up can't penetrate. Sure you can catch some poor soul out alone, but good teams simply won't lose to Leblanc, despite her early game lead. With these ideas I hope to make her early game a bit less unfair while increasing her late game potential.

Really I've only got ideas for the W and R, here they are:

W Distortion: Revert the travel speed nerfs to it and take away the instant porting back to her starting place. Instead of the instant porting thing add a 1/.75/.5/.25/0 second delay for a second cast that does no damage or reduced damage, but lets you choose where you want to go.

Reasoning behind this change:

  1. This makes laning a little more dangerous for Leblanc while also increasing her late game slipperiness.

  2. Each cast would also count towards her R, Mimic as well. So you could do fancy new combos like W Q E sW RW sRW ('s' meaning 'second') for insanely long reaching chases or escapes, or W E sW RW Q sRW using the second RW damage to proc your Q. Or for an especially prolonged fight against a tank or an enemy with a spellshield or something you can use the second RW's damage to activate a second Q after your cooldown for Q has reset. So something like Q W E sW RW Q sRW.

  3. You can also use it to catch up to those that are about to break your E chains. This change really takes Leblanc to the next level of versatility. With this change I'd also lower her E's tether range, something that should probably be done anyway considering most gapclosers won't break it.

R Mimic: Now does significantly less increased damage, but each spell has added effects depending on which one was used last.

RQ: Now silences the target when the mark detonates.

RW: Second cast does damage equal to how much the first cast did, possibly reduced on those already hit by the first RW cast.

RE: Three chains shoot out in a cone, similar to TF's Q or Kha'zix's evolved W. Or just one chain like normal, but the slow is increased and the snare is changed to a stun. Not both, I just can't decide between the two.

These changes now significantly increase utility instead of just damage.


That's pretty much all I've got to say, lemme know what you think.

5 Comments

Aeko1 votes

Second W casts seem a bit too strong. I think reverting the speed, adding a delay to blink back would be fine, with her mimic on her distortion, doing the second jump, perhaps with a light slow.

Her R changing all her abilities seem a bit over the top, she effectively has multiple ultimate, that are all enhanced versions.

RQ seems balanced, but perhaps add a new mechanic that she can't proc her q with her mimic q simply because that's a lot of burst and safety in 2 skills.

RW seems fine.

RE seems really unbalanced, seeing as you can e a target first, landing 4 chains in total. Maybe instead of multiple, it passes through at max 2 champions, binding them both after a set duration.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

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Second W casts seem a bit too strong. I think reverting the speed, adding a delay to blink back would be fine, with her mimic on her distortion, doing the second jump, perhaps with a light slow.

Her R changing all her abilities seem a bit over the top, she effectively has multiple ultimate, that are all enhanced versions.

RQ seems balanced, but perhaps add a new mechanic that she can't proc her q with her mimic q simply because that's a lot of burst and safety in 2 skills.

RW seems fine.

RE seems really unbalanced, seeing as you can e a target first, landing 4 chains in total. Maybe instead of multiple, it passes through at max 2 champions, binding them both after a set duration.

I was thinking of doing the second W cast at a reduced range, but I don't want her to feel gimped. While it is a straight buff to her late game, keep in mind that currently her second W cast is a blink, so isn't effected by knockups. My change would make it a dash just like the first cast, so you can actually interrupt it. Plus it won't do damage so it's purely an escape/chasing tool.

Yeah, she'll have multiple ults. She has that now, they just do more damage than her original spells. It's not like she can use all three of her ult abilities in one rotation. The ult still has a cooldown.

RE you wouldn't be able to hit the same target with multiple R chains. You'd still be able to land all three chains, but each on separate targets.

Michael Sykes1 votes

I would say LeBlanc is actually very strong and there are other champs that have to be reworked ^^

The Bearded Bard1 votes

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I would say LeBlanc is actually very strong and there are other champs that have to be reworked ^^

I didn't say she wasn't strong, I said her kit was boring. And as the league's only mesmer character, I think it should be more exciting.

Michael Sykes1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Bearded Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kGcOEHEo,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-12-15T20:29:03.651+0000)

I didn't say she wasn't strong, I said her kit was boring. And as the league's only mesmer character, I think it should be more exciting.

Well I think she is deceiving enough and fits her role and theme pretty well. The passive is obviously the reason, but the way you can outplay your enemy is unique with her. And after 200 games I am still excited to play her. I like your ideas, but they seem to be better for a new champ. Yep and I would like more champions like her too :D

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