My thoughts on the eventual Akali Rework (Super Detailed Topic)

PhantomGG··18 votes·4,123 views

Hi i'm PhantomGG, and at this point I have had a 50 50 success with the Akali community. 50 percent saying how creative she is and is a depth filled champion the other 50 percent siding with me that she isn't. However regardless of who is right and wrong, riot has already confirmed to us ages ago, that the rework will happen. So how about we stop arguing on how "deep" she is, and just get down to business and discuss what she needs. So here is my rework discussion topic on Akali The Fist of The Shadows.

So first, let's talk about lore and visuals.

Because she is so old, she suffers what many of the older champions suffer from. Super out dated visuals, very lazy bare minimum quotes/lines, and almost no lore written about her at all. Hell even her design, calling you out riot, is nothing more than a rip off from jade from mortal kombat, how you guys never got sued for ripping off jade by nether realm studios is beyond me, my only guess is you paid them to let you or they still to this day some how never noticed.


                                                                                    **                  THE LORE**

_"The Fist of Shadow strikes from the cover of death itself. Do not impede the balance." - Akali There exists an ancient order originating in the Ionian Isles dedicated to the preservation of balance. Order, chaos, light, darkness - all things must exist in perfect harmony for such is the way of the universe. This order is known as the Kinkou and it employs a triumvirate of shadow warriors to uphold its causes in the world. Akali is one of these shadow warriors, entrusted with the sacred duty of Pruning the Tree - eliminating those who threaten the equilibrium of Valoran. A prodigal martial artist, Akali began training with her mother as soon as she could make a fist. Her mother's discipline was relentless and unforgiving, but predicated on the fundamental principle: "We do that which must be done." When the Kinkou inducted her into the order at the age of fourteen, she could slice a dangling chain with a chop of her hand. There was no question - she would succeed her mother as the Fist of Shadow. She has had to do much in this role which others might find morally questionable, but to her it is in service of her mother's inviolable doctrine. She now works with her fellows Shen Shen and Kennen Kennen to enforce the balance of Valoran. _


**Who do I feel Akali is? **

Akali to me, and I feel to many others, is a strong woman, who grew up with, a brutally abusive mother who never allowed her to be a child, a die hard woman committed to the cause of balance even if it meant making her daughter absolutely miserable. A woman who had to endure that abuse, and was eventually brainwashed into believing it. However in her hardships she made friends, she founded someone she could trust within the order who made everything worth it. Then out of nowhere, it was all taken from her. Her one source of happiness gone, and thus whatever remained of Akalis inner child was fully given to the Kinkou order. Somewhere along the way she met Zed, perhaps Zed was her special someone who made her happy, and it was his betrayal to the order that pulled her heart into confliction, or perhaps it was Zed who ruined her only source of happiness, so now she dedicates her life for a chance to kill Zed. That is who Akali is to me, that is who I feel Akali is to many others. A poor and innocent girl who was forced into a world of harsh 24 7 border line or most likely abusive training by her mother. A girl who was pushed to her limits, forced to dull her emotions and give herself to the Kinkou order. Now with her order gone, all her friends dead, the only thing that keeps her human is her thirst to kill Zed.

Quote from Wiki Despite (or perhaps in some way due to) all of this, Akali is apparently the least willing of the Kinkou triumvirate to forgive Zed in any way. She believes only death is deserving of him, in contrast to Kennen Kennen believing redemption is still possible and Shen Shen being undecided in lieu of his duty towards exercising emotionless, unbiased judgement.


The direction they should take her lore

My thoughts, this is a fine, base idea for a character, but if this the "final draft", I will have to call it your stereotypical edge lord ninja girl. Nothing special, nothing unique. However Riot does allow the fans to pretty much write the lore on our own, which is somewhat part of the fun in league of legends. They give us a story, give us some hints, and they let us theory craft the rest. For Akali I hope Riot sticks with what they hinted, and what the fans created off of that. What is the fan theories with Akali? And for those who want proof Zed and Akali are most likely connected..http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2770235&page=9

Akali is either Zeds daughter, or zeds past besty/lover. People from riot, specifically Devan Runaan hints that Zed basically taught Akali some of her moves. It is also said that Akali hates Zed the most out of her colleges. So why is this?

Riot should end the mystery and give us a confirmation on what the true relationship is when her lore is reworked. Akali is also one of the few surviving members of the Kinkou order, so clearly she has been through a lot, losing her home, friends, family. So much can be written about this character. I believe the best place is to begin with her whole "twin disciples" concept. Darkness, and light, chaos and order. When you look at the three Kinkou ninjas.

Kennen-The Chaotic wild one Shen- The balanced calm one

I always felt Akali was suppose to be the champion that meets them in the middle. Tell us more on her age compared to Shen and Zed, tell us more on what Shen and Zed mean to her. You don't have to answer us everything, you can easily leave many mysteries for us to solve. But the character is being held back through a writer perspective by saying "oh she was trained by her mom to be the best and now she is the best" and putting all the lore hints in her abilities.

However I also mentioned in "who akali is to me" that Riot was so insistent when writing her lore, on how much a influence her mother was in her life. when you are a normal kid you are like "COOL" but when you are older and you read the line. "trained the moment she could forma fist". That can be as early as three years old. Even if she was six when she started, starting at six to be the perfect assassin for the kinkou order? uhm i'm sorry, our modern government likes to call that CHILD ABUSE. Riot needs to go deep with this, and talk about how hard and sad this training was and was it that kept her sane in the process.

TLDR -Tell us more about her powers and how they work/why they work -Tell us the relationship between her and Zed or give us some hints at leaste -Tell us what Shen means to her and why she chose to stay with him, or once again give us some hints -Make her personality more developed, make her feel like an actual person -Go deep and i mean TEARS FEELS DEEP on how brutal the training with her mother was


Her Design

Personally I believe the whole Jade rip off costume needs to go. You can keep the theme, but the costume and some of the coloring can use some minor changes. You did it for Shen (you guys literally made fun of yourselves with the frozen shen skin, admitting it). So now it's time you do it for Akali. Give the damn woman some personality for christ sake, her lore is literally "she was trained to be the best since she was a kid by her mom and now she is" nothing more, nothing less, and even her costume is a rip off from Jade. Sometimes I have to ask myself why I love Akali so much. Maybe it's because I enjoy what the fan base turned her into, and I hope that's what riot makes her into.

Here is some fan art that I feel really embodies Akali http://forums.eune.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=65416 http://pre14.deviantart.net/6381/th/pre/f/2016/030/4/1/412081c7e322ba34b9badcc39499f854-d9pv688.jpg

Akali is a woman who has gone through hardships, a woman who had to endure, a woman who was robbed of her child hood wrongfully by her mother. "for the greater good" and her looks should reflect that and give her dignity. She should be more than a jade rip. She deserves her own unqiue color pallet, her own individual costume. I'm pretty sure me and many others wish her blood moon skin was her classic, for it truley does embody her spirit far better. I was reviewing Akalis concept art today and I must say what you guys drew was far better then what you gave us. Was it not implimented because you didn't have the skill or tools at the time to make it a reality? Or did you guys just legitimately enjoyed the final draft more that came into the game? I want to say please review your orignal concept art ideas for her, with her leg paddings and her no shoes concept was pretty cool, Especially the one in the middle and left Honestly they were all supperior. The belt on the far left is awsome. The no shoes concept was cool, the metal like plates on her legs in all thre, the pants in picture 1. Why were these all ditched? Even the costume was more dignifying and I feel if you went with this, people would of never compared her with Jade.

For everyone else to see: http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/champion/akali/?mv=image-gallery

Akali is a strong character, make her embody that.


Akalis voice

For her voice, gonna keep this short and simple, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE re hire the original voice actress if she's still available or at least someone who sounds like her

Akali is a calm, disciplined, soft spoken woman, however it's hinted from the wiki that she is the one who is quick and prone to violence. Kill first ask questions later. Are you on her hit list? Well sucks to be you.

Her voice actress should have the spirit of someone who is calm, but will raise hell the moment she is given the chance. As the saying goes from one of our USA presidents.

"speak softly, but with a very big stick" I feel Akali nails this ideal, and her voice should show that. but in her case

"speak softly but with two very big sickles"


**THE SKILLS What we have now? **

Now onto the harder part, nailing a character in lore and design is one thing, but can you do it in game play? My answer, I think will please people. But first let's talk about what she has now. with simplified explanations

Passive Twin Disciplines: Akalis sickles glow green and red, green for heals, red for damage. First auto will heal you, second auto does more burst damage. You typically want to go in for trades when you have your passive up, for you miss out on a lot of opportunity when you don't. (not go in in when you have it, but I mean when you chose to fight, you should wait for the passive to be up first. for the heal will give you back some health you lost, and the damage will help you burst thus helping you win the trade)

Do I like this skill?: Honestly yes I do, do I like how it currently functions? No not really, I feel riot can come up with a more creative way to make this idea work better.

Q Mark of the Assassin: Akali throws a sickle at you, and you the victim go boom when she hits you while your marked. It's also single target and can't be dodged. Or as I like to call it "lock on ability"

Do I like this ability: I mean i use to, but now I don't I feel this skill is becoming her core problem as a champion in why she can't lane anymore. It's single target, it offers no wave clear, if you max it first, you won't be able to clear minions under turret or at all, for E helps you out greatly in that concept. The idea of using a sickle to fight is fine, throwing it is fine, but how it functions, needs to change greatly. So no, I currently don't like this ability, it's out dated.

W Twilight Shroud: Akali does a small dash, and is now in stealth in a AOE circle field, while in it she is faster, while her opponents are in it, they are slower. Oh and it can hop small cracks in walls.

Do I like this ability; I love the idea, I sorta like how it works, but it has room to grow. So much room.

E Crescent Slash: JUST BEY BLADEEEEEEEE, JUST BEY BLADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N74cnBa_Bmc i'm so sorry i had a moment of weakness and I gave in.. Eh hehm..Akali spins in a aoe circle and does damage to people around her.. oh and it scales with both ad/ap

R~~ lol where you going?~~ Shadow Dance: Akali locks and jumps onto her target doing damage, this has 3 charges, it's her prime and butter, and a large reason why she is so helpless pre six. It's 90 percent of her ability, it's what allows her to get onto long range champions and mark them with her abilitys, without it she is bullied, she has a hard time getting onto targets, pre 6 Akali is just misery.

Do I like this ability: Yeah I do, but I would rather her p-e be given more tools to work with, I rather have a weaker ultimate if it allows me to lane better with my main skills.

2 Gun blade: Yeah i'm including this as her ability, for this item has unfortunately become almost core to her identity. It gives her that tiny bit of AD to help her AD scalings, and it gives tankyness with how strong the healing scales with her abilities.

Do I like this: No I don't, a champion being so brutally reliant on a single item to the point your not even a champion till you get it, is just a terrible idea. I don't know if Riot knew this when they invented her, but they know it now. Riot needs to fix this.

If you wish to see accurate numbers and descriptions on her skills then here is a link to the wiki: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Akali/Abilities


Changes I want to see in Akalis new abilities

First I want to say, youtuber Jermey Curious did a amazing job on his beilefs on Akali and I want to share that here for other people to see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X84SpgPA0wM

Secondly: What happens to Akali is 100 percent up to riot, guessing what they do to her in lore and designs, imo is easy to do. Guessing what will happen to her in a rework, well, that's nearly impossible to do. So while I post my own ideas, like them, hate them, I really want you guys to share your thoughts on what will happen with Akali. For like it or not, it's going to happen eventually.

So here are some bullet points

-Better tools to lane A: basically a skill shot that allows her to either A clear minions, or B harrass the enemy laner

  • less toxic ultimate A: i'm sorry, this play style of "i'm ontop of you, and even if you run away I can just do this two more times" play style is just toxic, this is coming from the Akali lover B: BUT BUT AHRI AND DIANA. No shut up kid, Ahri's ultimate is on a 60+cooldown, and Diana only gets the refresh if she lands her Q and hits the target that was hit by Q. -Not so bloody item reliant A: self explanatory

Her Auto attacks: Why am I mentioning this? For compare it to Zed, or fizz, akalis auto attacks vs other assasins, just feels clunky, it feels off, please make these smoother.

For her Passive: I like the idea, I said it, I really do, however like jermey said, I hope riot implements in some way mark of the assassin into her passive or with all of her abilities to interact with it in some way. I also hope riot restores her self healing identity so she isn't so reliant on gun blade to do it for her. I feel the idea of this passive can stay, but I hope riot improves how it functions. Currently with Akalis toolkit she feels clunky. This is a passive that feels like it should shine with champions who have very smoothe combo rotations. Prime example Zed and Riven. Akali does not feel as smoothe as they do, to properly abuse her passive.

Her Q: Honestly I had this fun little idea, of what if, they turned Akalis sickles into twin chain sickles? To go further with this idea, what if she throws her q in a liner skillshot and it could go through and damage minions, and then hook onto a target, however make it like Shyvanas E, where it stops after hitting the first champion. That target can then be marked while being minorly slowed. This would help her out so much in farming, and in laning. This is going even further, but what if we made the mark last longer, so if she hits you a second time with Q, it can proc the mark? So basically first q implant the mark, second q ignite it. However keep the theme of her also being able to do so with a auto attack.

W: How about we softly increase the range, but make it so enemy champions who are marked by her Q become slowed to a mediocre amount while in it, or they take damage while in it while being minorly slowed. When a ninja uses a smoke bomb in real life, you are suppose to be in deap shit while inside the smoke bomb, however akalis current W sorta feels silly. For you know where Akali is, AOE and skill shots still works on her while shes in it. The whole point of a smoke bomb is to hide your location while blinding the enemy. While I find the current W cool, the current W however doesn't live up to that fantasy, and their are easily ways we can balance/rework it to make it do so.

THE CRAZY IDEA: Switch out W and R while fusing R with E so that way we can completely open a new slot for either w or E for a new ability but like I said this is just a "crazy idea"

E: Frankly I have no idea if this should, stay, go, or be fused with another ability. it's not a bad ability, but should it stay in favor of something else? Perhaps we can find a way to incorperate it with my belief Akali should be given chain sickles. perhaps she spins, and when she procs mark of the assassin, they are stunned for a very short time, because she wrapped you in chains. Or would this be copying rengar to much? Like I said i'm very lost with this ability

R: I have many ideas in what her ultimate could be, perhaps like I said early, they give her a mega smoke bomb, or perhaps they can give her something similar to fioras old ultimate. it is called "shadow dance" after all. Frankly the current ultimate is a fairly toxic play style, and change MUST happen, for it's also her greatest weakness, for she is so ultimate reliant.


Her abilities and her Lore should be linked together

So i'm going to keep this part fairly short, Akali is a champion who meets the lines of shadows and light, she was trained as a child to be the perfect assassin, so she should reflect that deadly shadow assassin tone in the same way Zed does. However it's also clearly especially from the fact her ability is called twilight shroud, that Shen or someone in the Kinkou order taught her shen like abilities. So Akali should be this harmony between shadows and twilight. Regardless if my ideas are shit or not, what I think we all can agree on, is akalis abilities hint who she is, they hint how she came to be.

"Twin Disciples"-Her two biggest teachers "mark of the assassin"-her mother "twilight Shroud"-Shen "Shadow Dance"-Zed "Crescent strike"-herself

I want this theme to be kept, but this time, I want it clear, that she is a person with two polar opposite fighting styles that were fused together.


Conclusion

Honestly this is all I have to say on Akali, I can go into more detail about her problems or her strengths, but the topic is long enough as is. I am Akali fan, she is one of my all time favorite champion concepts, and I wrote this topic with a lot of love and I hope it shows through. I am PhantomGG and this is my topic on the Akali rework and my hopes for her future. Please discuss on how you feel about Akali and her future below. Akali

Some random stuff Special interactions with: Zed Shen Kennen Jhin Kayn Nocturne Talon Akali Syndra Yasuo

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38 Comments

KoKoboto7 votes

Honestly I hate Akali. Point click assassins WTF. I have never invested time into Akali at all on all fronts, lore, gameplay, theme, anything. The only thing I know about Akali was that she was pretty cancer with a tank build. But I digress.

I like how you got Akali as growing up and having parts of all the people who taught her stuff. Like a lot.

Kusarigama would be a pretty cool concept for Akali on her Q. Playing For Honor and seeing Shinobi (kinda OP atm) showed me how cool that weapon could be. What if it worked like a long range hit and afterwards you could dash in any direction, perhaps give it a cast animation but it would overall increase Akali's mobility and add some skill. It would also highlight some of the brutality she went through cause you're literally hooking onto someone (kinda) which is pretty brutal.

I feel a lot more gameplay should come from her Twilight Shroud, like that should be her main thing to get assassinations off and what she plays around. Right now the ability is pretty lame and I like the idea of an actual huge smoke bomb, of course they could change VFX to make it cooler than that but yeah. I think they should keep the ability relatively the same, you still teleport a bit in it, but make the AoE larger but also lower the CD. Having a longer CD is more of a bruiser stat anyways. It would also put more urgency on Akali to use the ability wisely because you don't get much time with it.

Crescent slash is way too simple of an ability but maybe you keep it the same if her other abilities have more mechanics to them.

You didn't go much into ideas of her ultimate. I think she needs a new one to be honest. It's just Lee sin Q without the first Q part and you can use it three times. Really stale ability for an assassin kinda if you ask me. Would like to see your ideas for an R change.

-Biased Riven Hater

Monotachi2 votes

Point click assassins WTF

Haha, it just shows her age, that's all.

PhantomGG4 votes

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Honestly I hate Akali. Point click assassins WTF. I have never invested time into Akali at all on all fronts, lore, gameplay, theme, anything. The only thing I know about Akali was that she was pretty cancer with a tank build. But I digress.

I like how you got Akali as growing up and having parts of all the people who taught her stuff. Like a lot.

Kusarigama would be a pretty cool concept for Akali on her Q. Playing For Honor and seeing Shinobi (kinda OP atm) showed me how cool that weapon could be. What if it worked like a long range hit and afterwards you could dash in any direction, perhaps give it a cast animation but it would overall increase Akali's mobility and add some skill. It would also highlight some of the brutality she went through cause you're literally hooking onto someone (kinda) which is pretty brutal.

I feel a lot more gameplay should come from her Twilight Shroud, like that should be her main thing to get assassinations off and what she plays around. Right now the ability is pretty lame and I like the idea of an actual huge smoke bomb, of course they could change VFX to make it cooler than that but yeah. I think they should keep the ability relatively the same, you still teleport a bit in it, but make the AoE larger but also lower the CD. Having a longer CD is more of a bruiser stat anyways. It would also put more urgency on Akali to use the ability wisely because you don't get much time with it.

Crescent slash is way too simple of an ability but maybe you keep it the same if her other abilities have more mechanics to them.

You didn't go much into ideas of her ultimate. I think she needs a new one to be honest. It's just Lee sin Q without the first Q part and you can use it three times. Really stale ability for an assassin kinda if you ask me. Would like to see your ideas for an R change.

-Biased Riven Hater

Honestly I had a lot of rad ideas for her ultimate, but was in fear of getting the "OMG THATS SO BROKEN INSTA DISLIKE SOULY BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT" people, didn't want to get dislike spammed after all that work purely because of a single sentence.

and yes people do, do that.

Another reason I didn't get to into it, is for a ultimate heavily effects who a champion is. A champion has three identities.

1-The lore 2-The combo Q-E 3-the ultimate

So because the ultimate is in it's whole catagory of it's own, the ultimate can really become just about anything riot wants' making it possibly the hardest to discuss.

We can discuss is it balanced? I believe the answer to that is easy, the current ultimate is a pretty freaken broken idea. a short cooldown 3 charged guarenteed dash lock that does damage, making it impossible for any adc to get away from you unless Braum saves the day.

Personally I believe it should be completely removed and replaced with something much cooler in terms of animations. but then you would need to heavily update q-e to give her mobility. but I feel safe commenting what I want the toolkit to be here. if I was to have "my personal" dream Akali

Auto Attacks: will be made more fluent and faster, sort of like Kayns.

Passive-Restore the original spell vamp, while implementing mark of the assassin math idea

Q-Mark of the assassin Akali throws her chained sickle in a linear skillshot, the skillshot will damage any minions or mosnter camps it hits, while locking onto any champion or major camp/monster, the champion or major camp monster (aka adult raptor, red buff, dragon, baron) will then be marked and softly slowed for 1 second. Akali may press Q again to lunge herself towards the marked target with her chain (you have only a 1 second window to do this so this forces you to think fast if you want that)

(The embodiment of her mothers teachings)

W-Shroud of Shadows Akali throws a Shadow shroud onto the floor in a aoe skill shot (this one will have much more range than the current one and the dash is removed) When Akali is within the smoke bomb she is stealthed, her movement speed is increased and her damage is slightly increased. marked targets within the smoke bomb are slowed moderately, un marked targets within the circle are only slightly slowed.

(basicaly the goal vision is to create a field of darkness where Akali wants to stay in and fight in, where she can live her gorilla war fare ninja play style to have this skill embody zeds teachings)

E- Crescent Twilight Akali spins in a aoe circles while lashing around her chains, targets who were marked are snared for half a second

R- Dance of the assassin Akali casts a ring of shadows and twilight and dashes onto a target doing a burst of aoe, while in this state akali does increased damage and if she kills her target within 3 seconds of casting her ultimate she may launch herself onto another target. (this will keep refreshing as long as she gets a kill within 3 seconds but may only be done 3 times, the count begining at your first target)

This will embody her becoming her own self

as for what she would look like in her animations. it would sort of be like a twilight ninja(shen) but she would look more like an assassin, with traces of shadows following her around, to show for some reason she fights like a shadow ninja.

Shahamut1 votes

I have some different ideas I can share later, but I don't really like your idea for q, as it's really just a more powerful thresh q. :-/

In general, I hope that her assassin Mark becomes her passive, and that her twin discipline is expressed in some other way.

Linna Excel7 votes

You spent all that time talking about akali and no mention of sideboob?

More side boobage!

#MakaAkaliGreatAgain

#MAGA

On a related note, I'd pretty much assume that akali's lore is going to get dumpstered by the lore team as they'll want to do something new with her. She might end up getting a new personality as well. It could be anything from onesan wa kawaii desu!!! to I must avenge my father who yasuo killed or anything in between. If the people who did Kayn rework her, she might turn into the female edgelord of league.

PhantomGG4 votes

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You spent all that time talking about akali and no mention of sideboob?

More side boobage!

#MakaAkaliGreatAgain

#MAGA

On a related note, I'd pretty much assume that akali's lore is going to get dumpstered by the lore team as they'll want to do something new with her. She might end up getting a new personality as well. It could be anything from onesan wa kawaii desu!!! to I must avenge my father who yasuo killed or anything in between. If the people who did Kayn rework her, she might turn into the female edgelord of league.

Plenty of fan artists from "various websites" already got that covered for you ;)

Serious Note: Honestly Kayns lore wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be. It's allready been confirmed Noxus has no problem using child soldiers, So kayn went fine into that category. My issue was that they made him such a kiss ass.

HalcyonDweller5 votes

Really like your analysis!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

I think it would be cool if her ultimate gave her multiple smoke bombs to teleport / dash between instead of dashing to target enemies, might be too powerful that way though.

Something to involve more shadow dancing, y'know?

PhantomGG1 votes

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Really like your analysis!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

I think it would be cool if her ultimate gave her multiple smoke bombs to teleport / dash between instead of dashing to target enemies, might be too powerful that way though.

Something to involve more shadow dancing, y'know?

had an idea like that myself but then I felt it put her to close to katarina.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

Oh I see. What about a shifting cloud of shadow (like her smoke bomb except more flowing and drawn out) that she could move with her mouse and she gained stealth and bonus movement speed for running in it?

It might open up some very cool modes of trickery when combined with Bushes or her Smoke bomb...

HalcyonDweller3 votes

Oh I see. What about a shifting cloud of shadow (like her smoke bomb except more flowing and drawn out) that she could move with her mouse and she gained stealth and bonus movement speed for running in it?

It might open up some very cool modes of trickery when combined with Bushes or her Smoke bomb...

Monotachi2 votes

That would be so dank. A puffy smoke cloud that moves like in cartoons. Lots of mind games with this type of ability.

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HalcyonDweller1 votes

Yeah, I'm picturing something that moves like a cloud of sparrows as they fly about, drifting and changing direction and shape as a whole. It would look so cool!

QuinnsDeathGardn3 votes

IF RITO MESSES UP AKALI, I WILL GO AKALI ON THE ENTIRE CHAMP UP TEAM!!! Blood moon Akali needs to be her best skin, no questions asked. It is her most iconic skin to the point where the majority of her fan art besides those of other skins has her in that garb. It is so outdated compared to the other ones

Monotachi2 votes

Lore Lore-wise with the release of Kayn, it adds more depth in possible connections for Akali.

Kayn has two forms - giving the idea he knows how to use double techniques, just like Akali. Interestingly, he has one side that deals bonus magic damage and the other side gives sustain (spellvamp, Akali used to have this for the majority of the time). Since both are/were students of Zed, it would imply they were both influenced by Zed's teachings.

I think that's an interesting take on Akali's lore. It adds alot more emotional flare to Akali's history because currently the lore description we have of Akali is really dull and doesn't leave much for imagination.


Gameplay Gameplay-wise, her current kit has the tools needed to fulfil her fantasy. It's more about re-building them to modern standards, add skill expression to her existing abilities to increase her skill ceiling, therefore increasing her reward to go along with this while solving her existing gameplay health issues. My opinion is: Akali had a working kit pre-5.2. It was fun, fitting to her fantasy and was super-fluid to use. The only issue was that it lacked the counterplay required for how easily accessible she was.

Considering reav3 has mentioned Akali would be almost certainly a modernisation VGU similiar to Fiora/WW, keeping her current core identity intact but further fleshing them out further would be good to cater to a much broader audience.

Akali's core identities of equal importance are:

  • Dual hybrid scaling passive 'Twin Disciplines' - goes with her theme around duality, using double techniques - her role in Kinkou is all about balance and she talks alot about it.
  • Smoke bomb 'Twilight Shroud' - classic tool for a ninja, her hallmark ability that no other champion has. Tons of potential.
  • Multiple jumps 'Shadow Dance' - ninjas are agile and mobile, multiple dashes achieve this fantasy.

Would post a kit idea later on, but essentially, if those core identities are kept, it will be Akali.

PhantomGG3 votes

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Lore Lore-wise with the release of Kayn, it adds more depth in possible connections for Akali.

Kayn has two forms - giving the idea he knows how to use double techniques, just like Akali. Interestingly, he has one side that deals bonus magic damage and the other side gives sustain (spellvamp, Akali used to have this for the majority of the time). Since both are/were students of Zed, it would imply they were both influenced by Zed's teachings.

I think that's an interesting take on Akali's lore. It adds alot more emotional flare to Akali's history because currently the lore description we have of Akali is really dull and doesn't leave much for imagination.


Gameplay Gameplay-wise, her current kit has the tools needed to fulfil her fantasy. It's more about re-building them to modern standards, add skill expression to her existing abilities to increase her skill ceiling, therefore increasing her reward to go along with this while solving her existing gameplay health issues. My opinion is: Akali had a working kit pre-5.2. It was fun, fitting to her fantasy and was super-fluid to use. The only issue was that it lacked the counterplay required for how easily accessible she was.

Considering reav3 has mentioned Akali would be almost certainly a modernisation VGU similiar to Fiora/WW, keeping her current core identity intact but further fleshing them out further would be good to cater to a much broader audience.

Akali's core identities of equal importance are:

  • Dual hybrid scaling passive 'Twin Disciplines' - goes with her theme around duality, using double techniques - her role in Kinkou is all about balance and she talks alot about it.
  • Smoke bomb 'Twilight Shroud' - classic tool for a ninja, her hallmark ability that no other champion has. Tons of potential.
  • Multiple jumps 'Shadow Dance' - ninjas are agile and mobile, multiple dashes achieve this fantasy.

Would post a kit idea later on, but essentially, if those core identities are kept, it will be Akali.

oddly enough I never once considered Kayn into the whole spectrum.

Monotachi3 votes

Agreed on getting the original voice actress back. Laura Bailey did good on finding a voice for Akali.

With the release of Jhin, he has more lore background around the ninjas, though Akali gets briefly mentioned in it. I think she expressed wanting to hunt down Jhin and kill him. Shen was noting how Akali's thirst for violence displayed her naivety but it reminded him this was just like Zed.

QuinnsDeathGardn2 votes

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oddly enough I never once considered Kayn into the whole spectrum.

How do you not see them as undeniably connected? He was Akali's replacement who, guess what, also wants to betray Zed. Such a bad teacher never learns

PhantomGG2 votes

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How do you not see them as undeniably connected? He was Akali's replacement who, guess what, also wants to betray Zed. Such a bad teacher never learns

This is more Zed related, but.

soooo Zed gets kicked out and scolded by his teacher for discovering a dark power that is possibly alive and evil..

Zed now has his own student who he probabbly cares for..warns his student about a dark and evil power..

HMMMMM

Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votes

Personally I don't think Riot will do Akali's original personality and lore justice. Riot CANNOT Do serious. Did you see what happened to Poppy? From a stern character with drive, to a fucking anime waifu ditz. I don't have much faith they'll do her justice because they've failed that archetype already.

She'll either end up Edgy AF like Xayah or into just being annoying fan-service b8.

PhantomGG2 votes

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Personally I don't think Riot will do Akali's original personality and lore justice. Riot CANNOT Do serious. Did you see what happened to Poppy? From a stern character with drive, to a fucking anime waifu ditz. I don't have much faith they'll do her justice because they've failed that archetype already.

She'll either end up Edgy AF like Xayah or into just being annoying fan-service b8.

Perhaps if they get the creator of yasuo and Zed in charge they can do it correctly, I feel those two were solid characters, it was only within the last two years that they started messing up on those type of characters. For poppy I feel it was more of Riot hating everything about the orignal poppy and just wanting to start from scratch.

Xayahs flaws I feel are the fault of Rakkan, and Rakkans faults are the fault of Xayah. The story they have is so intertwined, that you don't really see them as individuals anymore, you just see "xayah and rakkan". You see this happen often in real life with actual couples.

Mk2Chieftain2 votes

Good News and More News

More News - Swain is next after Eve for VGU and since Eve is coming after next champ

It’ll still be awhile before the updated Evelynn’s eviscerating her enemies on spikes of hatred, but expect to see her (or, more realistically, not see her) sometime after the new Vanguard mentioned above. http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/07/champion-roadmap-july-2017/?utm_source=LeagueClient&utm_medium=OverviewTier2Pos1

So also considering VGU takes 6 months from the time the team finishes their last (Warwick done Jan 25, Urgot follows 6 months later) That means that Eve will be done in about September or October following the next champion. That also means Aatrox will be done around Jan and Swain in August.


Good News - Akali is very likely next year as if I remember correctly, there will be 5 VGUs next year and even subtracting Swain and Aatrox that still leaves 3 slots open. Since Akali is tier 1 candidate I feel like she is one of the most likely.

PhantomGG1 votes

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Good News and More News

More News - Swain is next after Eve for VGU and since Eve is coming after next champ http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/07/champion-roadmap-july-2017/?utm_source=LeagueClient&utm_medium=OverviewTier2Pos1

So also considering VGU takes 6 months from the time the team finishes their last (Warwick done Jan 25, Urgot follows 6 months later) That means that Eve will be done in about September or October following the next champion. That also means Aatrox will be done around Jan and Swain in August.


Good News - Akali is very likely next year as if I remember correctly, there will be 5 VGUs next year and even subtracting Swain and Aatrox that still leaves 3 slots open. Since Akali is tier 1 candidate I feel like she is one of the most likely.

Sad to see the evelyn rework happen but I underestand why it's happening. Hopefully we can see next years list soon.

Iceember1 votes

Your math is a bit backwards here. 5 VGUs. These other updates like Aatrox and Xin are champions they are looking to do smaller scale work on. It's likely that we'll see Eve and Aatrox before pre-season. Swain is likely to happen in January. Akali (assuming she's right after Swain) would be March/April.

Monotachi1 votes

Aatrox and Xin are GUs, so they don't take any time off the VGU teams.

Mk2Chieftain1 votes

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Your math is a bit backwards here. 5 VGUs. These other updates like Aatrox and Xin are champions they are looking to do smaller scale work on. It's likely that we'll see Eve and Aatrox before pre-season. Swain is likely to happen in January. Akali (assuming she's right after Swain) would be March/April.


I thought Aatrox was going to be a whole VGU/GU? See below

RETURN TO THE DARKIN BLADE, AATROX When Aatrox was released, a ton of players picked him and were super excited to try him out on the Rift. Unfortunately, the promise of Aatrox’s art and theme really wasn’t delivered on in his gameplay. Aatrox continually tops our player request charts for a gameplay update, so we want to take this time to revisit the Darkin Blade and try to truly deliver on the fantasy that Aatrox’s art and theme suggest—a demonic warrior who craves bloodshed. This will likely be the largest pure gameplay update we have ever done on a champion, with every single ability being evaluated and updated. We’re still early in development on Aatrox but there are already some promising design directions we’re playing with. The update is still a ways off, but we wanted to start talking about it now since we know it’s high up on players’ wishlists. http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/06/champion-roadmap-june-2017/

Didn't mention Xin but he should be coming before Aatrox and he will be smaller scope, not official vgu, which would mean near the end of year. I also stand by my 6 month vgu time if that is the math that is being questioned.

Edits: Aatrox is GU but will still be the largest GU as stated above.

koshkyra1 votes

Special interactions with: Akali

What? Lol?

Monotachi2 votes

Probably in a blind match, where there are two Akali's.

ChaosThief2 votes

Some reference to matchmaking and/or noobs would be required here.

Mk2Chieftain1 votes

Yo great post! Odd idea for combining Akali Q and E that I thought of based on your Kusarigama idea:

Q: Akali starts swinging her kusarigama around in a circle increasing in area and speed for up to 5 seconds dealing dmg to all enemies hit. Akali can reactivate to "throw" it out as a skill shot dealing dmg to the first enemy struck. If an enemy champion is struck they are locked onto, unable to move beyond a certain distance away from Akali.(Think Karma/LB chain but they can't move beyond)

I hope that made sense![slayer-jinx-wink]

Chaos Milk Tea1 votes

Assassins shouldnt have healing or shields. It breaks theil asassin profile of dealing burst damage, having strong engage but low range, and low hp but strong evasion/disengage. Rather it starts turning them into duelists and sustained fighters like riven and Jax. The better her healing is, the more she becomes like that top lane tank alkali that cropped up a while ago. That build was unfun, and did not fit her design or lore.

Either Alkali needs to become a duelists/fighter, or she needs to drop the healing aspect and find something else to fit her "balance" theme.

PhantomGG3 votes

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Assassins shouldnt have healing or shields. It breaks theil asassin profile of dealing burst damage, having strong engage but low range, and low hp but strong evasion/disengage. Rather it starts turning them into duelists and sustained fighters like riven and Jax. The better her healing is, the more she becomes like that top lane tank alkali that cropped up a while ago. That build was unfun, and did not fit her design or lore.

Either Alkali needs to become a duelists/fighter, or she needs to drop the healing aspect and find something else to fit her "balance" theme.

Honestly if you play Akali or the old Akali her healing isn't that bad, it was just her tool to help her survive major fights, and it is sorta what seperated the good akalis from the bad ones, the Akalis who were able to do combos fast and fluidly would survive of healing for they were max out the dps, bad akalis would fuck up combos or hesitate, which would get them instantly killed for the only form of survival had was her healing meaning they weren't maximizing it. (talking about old akali)

New Akali the healing isn't even a factor anymore and honestly the healing is sorta laughable now, which is probably why they put more power into her W. As for why Tank Akali exists? The answer is simple, it's the trend that started last year, tank items are generally better than damage items, so once you have gun blade, their is no reason in why you can't just go full tank after. Honestly tank Akali could of existed back in season 4 or 5, it just simply took this long for people to notice.

Monotachi1 votes

Tank Akali works because tank items are at a premium right now and it has been this way since tank items have been changed over the years. Tank Akali didn't show up during S3/S4 because damage items were the premium. It also doesn't help that damage creep has happened due to masteries changing, meaning you only need one damage item, and go rest full tank because it just works.

Akali's healing scales with AP. Tank Akali has very little AP to begin with, so she won't get much healing out of it.

Shen is SO HOT1 votes

Wow. Even though I've been dreading Akali's rework for quite some time now (due to fear they'll fuck her up), this post got me kinda hyped for it lol. I usually hate when people try to theory craft about my baby, but this was an excellent read. The only thing I really disliked were your suggestions about Q and R. Those are her bread and butter spells. Sure, her passive and E could maybe use a little work and her W definitely has potential to be so much more, but her core abilities shouldn't be changed just for the sake of changing things. Her Q and R spells are core and are what me and other Akali mains hold near and dear to our hearts.

I knew the instance you said, "Frankly the current ultimate is a fairly toxic play style" that you don't play Akali at all and it made me super sad, cause the rest of your post was really intelligent.

I'm not going to lie, shadow dance used to be straight up busted, even after the nerfs back in late season 4 / early season 5. It wasn't until the 6.22 changes that shadow dance finally became balanced and by balanced I mean mediocre at best. It's gotten a lot weaker over the seasons, and I'm sorry if you disagree but it just wouldn't feel like Akali without this ability staying exactly as it is. How much weaker do you want it to get??

Here's a quote I ripped directly from Riot's 7.2 patch notes, where they give context on why they were choosing to buff Akali's R instead of something else: "Shadow Dance represents a lot of what we like about Akali’s kill pattern - it’s telegraphed, has appropriate downtime between casts, and gives the opposing team time to react with their abilities to help peel her prey."

Sorry for the long comment I just wanted to give you some feedback on what I thought as an Akali main and how Riot views Akali's R because it's not nearly as toxic as how it used to be or you say it is now. Overall this post was 9/10 (sorry i had to dock off 1 point for those terrible q and r suggestions lol). I wouldn't mind if riot saw this and did most everything you said! It's a shame you're not an Akali main tho, cause it would have been refreshing to see something this well thought out come from our community instead of the usual "revert to 6.21 because I'm bad" shit-posts.

Well done! :)

PhantomGG1 votes

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Wow. Even though I've been dreading Akali's rework for quite some time now (due to fear they'll fuck her up), this post got me kinda hyped for it lol. I usually hate when people try to theory craft about my baby, but this was an excellent read. The only thing I really disliked were your suggestions about Q and R. Those are her bread and butter spells. Sure, her passive and E could maybe use a little work and her W definitely has potential to be so much more, but her core abilities shouldn't be changed just for the sake of changing things. Her Q and R spells are core and are what me and other Akali mains hold near and dear to our hearts.

I knew the instance you said, "Frankly the current ultimate is a fairly toxic play style" that you don't play Akali at all and it made me super sad, cause the rest of your post was really intelligent.

I'm not going to lie, shadow dance used to be straight up busted, even after the nerfs back in late season 4 / early season 5. It wasn't until the 6.22 changes that shadow dance finally became balanced and by balanced I mean mediocre at best. It's gotten a lot weaker over the seasons, and I'm sorry if you disagree but it just wouldn't feel like Akali without this ability staying exactly as it is. How much weaker do you want it to get??

Here's a quote I ripped directly from Riot's 7.2 patch notes, where they give context on why they were choosing to buff Akali's R instead of something else: "Shadow Dance represents a lot of what we like about Akali’s kill pattern - it’s telegraphed, has appropriate downtime between casts, and gives the opposing team time to react with their abilities to help peel her prey."

Sorry for the long comment I just wanted to give you some feedback on what I thought as an Akali main and how Riot views Akali's R because it's not nearly as toxic as how it used to be or you say it is now. Overall this post was 9/10 (sorry i had to dock off 1 point for those terrible q and r suggestions lol). I wouldn't mind if riot saw this and did most everything you said! It's a shame you're not an Akali main tho, cause it would have been refreshing to see something this well thought out come from our community instead of the usual "revert to 6.21 because I'm bad" shit-posts.

Well done! :)

I actually do play a lot of Akali, but I can say as a person who does play a lot of Akali, the moment I had my ultimate, if i felt like try harding that game, I see the game as over for my opponents. Which is why I call her ultimate toxic, it has that much power.

As for Q, I do enjoy the current q, all i want is for Akali to have some sort of form of range harrass or wave clear. Currently unless you are smurfing or in a super easy match up that you counter pick against, Mid Akali is unplayable. I will legit call it unplayable. and hopefully this post will show you why it is so unplayable

Mid lane has evolved into a game of dodgeball. A game of nuke minions and throw dodgeballs at the enemy mid laner. However here is the problem Akali has and why she has been relegated to the top lane and the jungle. Here I give you a list of just about every champion you will see in the mid lane, and only one champion here shares her weakness while having all the same problems she does.

Ahri Annie Azir Brand Cassiopeia Corki Diana Ekko Galio JarvanIV Fizz Jayce Karma Karthus Kassadin Katarina Leblanc Lissandra Lulu Lux Malzahar Morgana Orianna Ryze Swain Syndra Taliyah Talon TwistedFate Varus Urgot Veigar Velkoz Vladimir Yasuo Zed Ziggs Zilean

All the champions listed with the exclusion for a few can very easily harrass and push Akali under tower. Akali is playing a game of dodgeball but she has no ball to throw, so instead she just takes the hits and begs for help. Fizz is the only other champion on this list who shares her weakness, but he at least turn himself into a dodge ball. Akalis only option to allow herself to harrass and trade, is to use her W offensively. However with the horrid cooldown it currently has, this now leaves you vulnerable for about 20 seconds for either a gank, or the enemy mid laner to harrass you even further, so you have better made that window of opportunity worth it when you do W in. Akali is also heavily reliant on jungle assistance pre six to either give her wards or to fight against the mid laner. You want your jungler to ward for you, for with how often you are being pushed in you will rarely find the good chance to give yourself a good ward (i'm not talking about river wards). So now you are in a losing lane, while demanding the jungler gives you resources. A Akali player should always lose the pre 6 war, and be down in farm and health. The goal of Mid lane Akali isn't to win lane, it's to survive, if you can just last till level 6, you are given so much power and kill pressure onto your lane opponent if their lead isn't to large, and your roams become god tier.

However to shut down a Akali is so very easy, she is a champion that is heavily item reliant, so if the mid laner just absolutely trashes the Akali, than even if the Akali reaches level six, she will very often be to far behind to do anything. Akali is a mid laner was who designed by riot on the time of her creation to have a weak lane phase with the trade, for a very strong level six power spike. She was given a toolkit that was fine for the times, but if you were to do some homework, the only assassin in this game who is older than she is, is Nidalee. Akali is quite literally the oldest assassin in this game, her toolkit was suitable for the times but is now to out dated to match up against modern mid laners.

Will talented Akali players be able to get wins? yes they will, but the challenges they face are huge. At the current moment the orignal mid lane assassin queen is now a far better top laner and jungler, and as a mid lane main who also mains assassin champions, this saddens me. I am a fan of Akali, I love her, and I woulden't be writing this reply or have created this post if I wasn't. If riot ever reads this post I beg them to please restore Akali back to the mid laner.

Fun fact the only pro games you see on her ever is top lane Akali.

That being said, to conclude this reply.

I understand why you are furious at me insulting her q, but if you truley love Akali as much as I do, you would be willing to let it go, in favor of something else, just so we can play mid lane Akali again, other wise, riot mine as well rework her into a top laner.

I want mid lane akali back, and will be saddened if she is forever to be a top laner, That is why I want focuses in change to be on her q and e.

Shen is SO HOT1 votes

I actually do play a lot of Akali

Do you have any evidence at all to back this claim up? Your op.gg for this account shows a grand total of a whooping 5 ranked games on Akali since season 5. I'm sorry, but if I can count the number of games you've played with Akali going 3 seasons back on one hand, then I don't think you can say "I play her alot". I mean come on dude, picking her 5 times over 3 seasons? You can't even say "I play her little" at this point lmao.

I can say as a person who does play a lot of Akali, the moment I had my ultimate, if i felt like try harding that game, I see the game as over for my opponents. Which is why I call her ultimate toxic, it has that much power.

So, because her ultimate pairs well with the rest of her kit and it feels satisfying to use, you're deeming it as "toxic"????? Why? How does that even make sense? What are you smoking? If it's as powerful as you say, why isn't she perma banned/picked in soloq? Did you read what I wrote at all about her ultimate in my comment above?? Patch 6.22 solved any and all problems her ultimate had counter-play wise. I suspect the only reason she's received any buffs at all since her changes 6 months ago (and why she's continuing to get more) is because her ultimate was toned down significantly.

all i want is for Akali to have some sort of form of range harrass or wave clear. Currently unless you are smurfing or in a super easy match up that you counter pick against, Mid Akali is unplayable.

You're honestly delusional if you think Akali can have all these things in her kit and still be even remotely balanced. If you want to play a champion with ranged harass maybe don't lock in Akali?? (oh wait you don't play her :P). Not every champion has to follow the same boring ass cookie cutter kit, which is the direction your proposed changes are pushing her into. She's never had a form of ranged harass and it's something I'm heavily against adding to Akali. If they gave her ranged harass she would be OP unless they heavily decreased the amount of mobility she has. Which now it suddenly makes sense to me why you want to destroy her ultimate. If i wanted to play a champion with harass instead of a hyper mobile ninja, I'd play kennen.

As someone who climbed to plat primarily playing Akali mid, I wouldn't say she's "unplayable". She sucks ass yes, but it's not unplayable lol. Is it harder than going top? Match-up wise I would say yes. But she's still very usable mid lane once you adjust your mindset according to your opponent's play-style. The only reason she's been struggling mid so much is because of the shroud changes in 6.22. None of us wanted that blink. We all wanted to be able to place shroud where ever we wanted to. But they didn't listen to our warnings so now shes the queen of bullying melee champions with that no counter-play, low interaction blink. Meanwhile her mid lane suffered deeply because the match-ups are mostly ranged and the blink is close to worthless in those situations.

I want them to give Akali back her tools for laning vs ranged champions but without them destroying her unique kit/play-style (what your proposed changes to R will do) or making her even more oppressive in lane (what your proposed q changes will do). That's why i want the majority of her game-play update to be more focused around her W or maybe even her passive. Changes to E are likely and even though I personally like her current E i welcome changes because it's not a spell that's particularly interesting or fundamental to Akali's kit.

Btw I wasn't furious, just really confused and disgusted by the direction you want to take Akali's Q + R lol. Like I said earlier, it was a great post altogether. Shocked that a non Akali main even made a post that wasn't "nerf this champion into the ground cause idk how to play against it". :P

And A Real Hiero1 votes

As a Shen main I approve of this!

iErk1 votes

I liked the idea of the ultimate being a massive 'smoke bomb'. Like a twilight shroud, she can move with greatly increased movement speed, it near sights enemies and looks like smoke inside: kinda likes Graves smoke bomb but much bigger. Just an idea

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