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stealing lane exp to hit lvl 3 in jungle is going to be the new meta

SwiftKitten88··1 votes·2,012 views

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/MQob4lFt-upcoming-jungle-changes-for-810

because not every jungler can contest scuttle or clear 3 camps at lvl 2..

prepare to bow down before your new Warwick overlord. because if you think he is bad now. you have no idea how bad he is goping to be when is the only junglers in the game who can do a brain dead easy clear at full hp be immune to invades and run strait at you when you are trying to do 3 more camps at low hjp without getting executed.

riot... i play nidalee... and warwick... these are like the TWO junglers in the game that benefit MOST from this change.

THIS HIS A HORRIBLE FUCKING IDEA

for reference...

[{quoted}](name=Riot Sotere,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=MQob4lFt,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-27T20:07:00.720+0000)

Heyas Everyone,

We're going to have some decently impactful jungle changes show up on PBE over the next few days in preparation for the 8.10 patch. Wanted to touch base here so none of the changes felt like they came out of left field and so players have a centralized place to give feedback over the next week or so.

**Goals: **

  • Reduce early lane pressure from junglers
  • Increase the number of jungle v. jungle interactions in the early game
  • Encourage variation in optimal pathing
  • Reduce mana restraints as a hard blocker for champions that want to jungle

High level tactics:

  • There is now only one Rift Scuttler on the map at any given time. The spawn location will be determined randomly, with a lot of notice given ahead of time to where it's going to spawn. Its rewards are also substantially higher than on Live
  • Jungle experience is down early game: most notably this means that routes to level (3) are not as simple as going Buff -> Camp -> Buff. Instead, you hit 3 with the following routes: ~~ * 2 standard camps and a Rift Scuttler~~ verified as false bullshit by me this will NOT hit you lvl 3
  • 3 camps if you include a Krug clear
  • 4 standard camps
  • Talisman will return substantially more mana regen based on your missing mana as you clear the jungle
  • Runic Echoes will get a face lift to make it more mage friendly

Rift Scuttler Specific Changes:

  • Base Health :: 800 >>> 1200
  • Health Scaling :: 800 +200 (after first spawn) +60 per level >>> 1200 + 25 per level
  • Experience Granted :: 10 >>> 170
  • Respawn Time :: 180 >>> 150
  • [NEW] Now only one exists on the map at a time
  • Initial Spawn Time :: 2:15 >>> 1:40
  • Gold Reward :: 70 >>> 100
  • Mana Reward On Death :: 10-40 (based off missing Mana percent) >>> 50-200 (based off missing Mana percent)

Will be jumping into this thread throughout the day when I have some spare time to talk about the high level direction. There's a lot of supporting changes for our goals, so the plan is not to get into the weeds until you have the full changelist available on PBE. As always, the changes that first hit PBE are tentative and subject to change. If you feel like a major element is not being considered or neglected, please let me know! We know this is going to impact a wide range of champions in the jungle (that's the intent in large part), and we'll address major outliers and be on the lookout for others negatively impacted. I'm excited for you guys to test it out next week on PBE. :)

13 Comments

Ghazter2 votes

Congrats, nice job finishing killing off Elise... Reducing early lane pressure = ded spyder.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

but if they try to invade you they'll be only level 2 themselves....

therefore youre all on equal footing.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

{quoted}

but if they try to invade you they'll be only level 2 themselves....

therefore youre all on equal footing.

meanwhile the lvl 4 laner will come help you, maybe. Im just looking foward to not being fucking ganked by lvl 6 jungler when i just hit 5 as a solo laner or im lvl 4 bot lane.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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but if they try to invade you they'll be only level 2 themselves....

therefore youre all on equal footing.

... except they can invade u level 2 straight from their buff, at full hp with nothing on cooldown and have smite ready while u probably have used half your cooldowns haven't hit lvl 3 to have any smite advantage probably have to used smite to not get executed for the few jungler that can pull it off,and are very low because you now have to try to take 3 camps without access to your 3rd ability yet to better fight them off or escape or a higher smite to contest your own camp.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

you should be at least with 75% health though being that you should have gotten a leash. the only time you wouldn't have a leashe is if you could already solo the camp while being relatively healthy.

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

you should be at least with 75% health though being that you should have gotten a leash. the only time you wouldn't have a leashe is if you could already solo the camp while being relatively healthy.

ok so your at 75% hp and thier at 20% they have suff on cooldown you dont..

your still going to win

and then there is Warwick who just flat out invades u at 100% hp and can easily case you and wins pretty much any lvl 2 duel in the game

Fear the Kayn1 votes

This change only happened because top laners of all elos don't know the definition of 'play safe when you don't have vision'.

Ghazter1 votes

In the future, you'd be wise to refrain from using direct declaration of opinion in the titles of your post. It invites a lot of downvotes; instead, post something along the lines of "Worried about jungle changes" or "Jungle buffs now have too high impact on lanes" ect... instead of declaring that, very specifically, a new meta for lvl 3 junglers. That's part of the problem, and you should have that specific example in the body, not the title. It gets a lot more people interested without immediately inviting bias against you for assuming the meta.

Don't get mad at me, I'm just trying to help you out. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

In the future, you'd be wise to refrain from using direct declaration of opinion in the titles of your post. It invites a lot of downvotes; instead, post something along the lines of "Worried about jungle changes" or "Jungle buffs now have too high impact on lanes" ect... instead of declaring that, very specifically, a new meta for lvl 3 junglers. That's part of the problem, and you should have that specific example in the body, not the title. It gets a lot more people interested without immediately inviting bias against you for assuming the meta.

Don't get mad at me, I'm just trying to help you out. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

lol that would imply i give a damn about what people think about my posts and that i remotely care about the opinion of people on this forum.

i say what needs to be said... because no one else has the balls to do so.

this community is toxic, hateful and the balance team has demonstrated time and time again they at absolutely clueless.

the last i can do is point out the obvious because no one else seems to notice this shit..

Ghazter1 votes

...If the balance team doesn't give a crap then why are you even posting...

Don't expect people to care if you yourself don't. If you cared about this and actually wanted a change, you would not be posting in such a lopsided and grammatically inaccurate manner. If you give garbage, you sure as heck don't get good changes.

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