Honestly riot, a lot of ppl are unsatisfied with AP itemization...

xxxMadLionxxx··41 votes·1,218 views

item 3165 is a must item 3089 to expensive and poor build path item 3116 utterly gutted item 3020 item 3135 no choice but to get this because mpen is so scarce item 3157 low ap long active cooldown. item 3100 item 3115 item 3152 super niche

item 3030 no one uses this.

Overall the items aren't weak but are stale and lack build diversity when compared to AD.

When does riot plan to address this?

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Bârd3 votes

item 3030 is purchased pretty often on AurelionSol Swain Kassadin

Veigar and AP Nami can use it to self peel and more reliably land CC.

KarthusAnivia get it instead of item 3027 if aiming to end in the mid game.

Infernape2 votes

I like to use GLP on Swain and Kassadin when I know I can't get RoA (in an unfavourable matchup or when I get set behind).

Dorans Pants2 votes

so you still want to see riot working on ap itemisation, even after the fiasco that was mymu? Another update just creates another opportunity for them to fuck it up even more. It took them forever to somewhat balance lethality and that´s one stat. I don´t think they can revamp a whole itemisation. There also too busy breaking the game with the new runes, ( not saying they will ruin the game, just that some will be inherently better than others and that it will take them approximately a half to one year, till they are fixed, just like keystones. ) so till then, ap-itemisation will probably have to wait.

They can address this issues as often as they want. As long as they don´t have a clue where they want to go with ap itemisation, it won´t solve anything though. I mean maybe they really touch a few items and make them less shitty, but I believe that´s the best we can hope for. Ap itemisation, even updated, will probably remain as boring and unimaginative as it is right now. And that´s my major problem with it. Ap itemisation, as functional as it may be, is just a chore and doesn´t offer anywhere the amount of diversity ad itemisation does. There are two kinds of ap-items right now. generalist-items like morellos, or items, which are only usable on 1 or 2 champs.

And with no diversity, there is no choice. And without meaningful decisions, there is no depth or any form of exploration.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

^ If anything they will touch ratios in the time being to account for every mage being basically down 15 AP most of the game especially if they don't opt to go down Domination or Sorcery. There will still be "cookie cutter" like builds, but usually most champions will opt for an assortment of keystones within a specific tree and can more accurately balance from there (the additional adaptive stats from Sorcery as an example).

Pelandria1 votes

They go through each group of items one by one. Honestly it should have been done with the mid season mage update. Mages are up next for item changes though so hopefully that gets done in season 8.

Ahris1 votes

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They go through each group of items one by one. Honestly it should have been done with the mid season mage update. Mages are up next for item changes though so hopefully that gets done in season 8.

You sure? It doesn't feel like Riot is doing any Mage kind of update any time soon. Where is the source for the scheduled update?

Pelandria1 votes

I more meant that they are the only group who hasn't gotten it so they should be up next, if Riot decides to go in order that is. Sorry for the confusion.

Ahris1 votes

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I more meant that they are the only group who hasn't gotten it so they should be up next, if Riot decides to go in order that is. Sorry for the confusion.

Ah, I doubt Riot will look at AP itemization. Not this season at least. Then again I may be wrong. I read somewhere Riot wanted to focus on melee ad champs more this season. So yeah, I may have read it wrong.

Doozku1 votes

Yeah I don't remember which post, I think it was an ask meddler post but it said that they were gonna look at Ap items next season (which is coming up very soon. )

Skorch1 votes

Well an important thing to realize is Riot has stated that AP itemization needs work, but that wont happen until they get time for a large update.

And since theyve been working on runes reforged... since like slightly before midseason... yeah.

Riot will probably update AP itemization either midseason season 8 or preseason 9 depending on how much time they need to fix it.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Divers and AP assassins need their own items. You can have a second item update when every class has gotten its first.

Enjutsu1 votes

It will be looked at next year, this was already posted multiple times, just because you post it more often doesnt mean it's gonna happen faster.

NotCounter1 votes

zhonya's shouldn't be a genuinely strong item, though i do agree rylais needs to be changed

GrievousFetus1 votes

Okay check this out believe me it'll work trust me best idea possible

we add all 3 BMB books to the rift and give Lost Chapter a named passive so you can only build 1 of either Pox, Rite, Morello or Grimoire.

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