They stared to whine about Rumble buffs, then about Mundo buffs who apparently became broken because Q deals so much damage even tho he has below 50% win rate.
Now it's Renekton who needs to be hotfixed with 50% win rate
Feels like there is some lesson that can be learned from all of that, but I can't figure out what.
Abibyama II2 votesThe lesson is that buffs are bad and everything should be nerfed according to the boards
Anime Fizz2 votesRenekton is aids to play against in top lane whenever hes good.
Of course you wouldnt know that as you have never played top lane.
Soul Dealer1 votesTheir win rate doesn’t matter. People complain because these champs are not fun to play against at all. Mundo just stays back and pokes you to oblivion without ever actually fighting you. Rumble is just annoying and Renekton will always be comaplinged about until spear of shoo-in is removed or his stun is removed. They could be the worst champs in the game but if they are unfun to play against that is also bad.
The thigh guy2 votes[{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jwYfwTYo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-22T18:53:40.070+0000)
Their win rate doesn’t matter. People complain because these champs are not fun to play against at all. Mundo just stays back and pokes you to oblivion without ever actually fighting you. Rumble is just annoying and Renekton will always be comaplinged about until spear of shoo-in is removed or his stun is removed. They could be the worst champs in the game but if they are unfun to play against that is also bad.
Yet yasuo, zed, talon, jhin, any assassin ever, Leblanc, Zoe, sylas, riven, Vayne, etc etc are all left untouched.
I can say with complete confidence, that no one outside of the person playing him has ever said “oh cool, there is a zed in my game” and not just been trolling.
Soul Dealer2 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jwYfwTYo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-22T18:56:48.357+0000)
Yet yasuo, zed, talon, jhin, any assassin ever, Leblanc, Zoe, sylas, riven, Vayne, etc etc are all left untouched.
I can say with complete confidence, that no one outside of the person playing him has ever said “oh cool, there is a zed in my game” and not just been trolling.
I don’t mind zed tbh. Yasuo is also fine as he does take skill to play properly. Vayn is broken atm so I agree with that. Talon Jhin and Zoe are fine. I personally hate lb so I agree with you there. Riven is busted so again I agree with you on her. Finally I don’t know what to think of sylas as I don’t see him much.
IMO I think most assaisns are balanced. I think the two biggest problem classes in the game are juggernauts and mages. Even then very few of the champs in those classes are unfun to play against outside of veigar from the mage catergorey and Nasus+Illoai from the juggernauts.
The thigh guy2 votes[{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jwYfwTYo,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-22T19:03:14.474+0000)
I don’t mind zed tbh. Yasuo is also fine as he does take skill to play properly. Vayn is broken atm so I agree with that. Talon Jhin and Zoe are fine. I personally hate lb so I agree with you there. Riven is busted so again I agree with you on her. Finally I don’t know what to think of sylas as I don’t see him much.
IMO I think most assaisns are balanced. I think the two biggest problem classes in the game are juggernauts and mages. Even then very few of the champs in those classes are unfun to play against outside of veigar from the mage catergorey and Nasus+Illoai from the juggernauts.
I’m saying they are just anti fun. Like idk about you. But jhin zoning me off of cs with the threat of half my healthbar to his q > 4th shot combo isn’t fun.
Same with talon, knowing that I lose from level 2 - 6 without contest isn’t fun.
Zoe. Knowing that if she happens to land one bubble I instantly lose the lane, isn’t fun.
Soul Dealer1 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jwYfwTYo,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-22T20:25:05.251+0000)
I’m saying they are just anti fun. Like idk about you. But jhin zoning me off of cs with the threat of half my healthbar to his q > 4th shot combo isn’t fun.
Same with talon, knowing that I lose from level 2 - 6 without contest isn’t fun.
Zoe. Knowing that if she happens to land one bubble I instantly lose the lane, isn’t fun.
The thing is against those champs you have an opportunity to play around those things even if it means getting zoned off a bit. Jhin will eventually have to use his 4th shot to get cs so when he does then you are no longer zoned. You can win early against talon if you pick the right champ or get a tank. With Zoe you just have to play more passively instead of aggressive. When I’m talking about anti fun I’m talking about a Leblanc dash over a wall onto me and I instantly die because why not, or a Renekton flash stunning me and I’m dead because his stun is instant. Anti fun is when there is no actual way to play around these things properly.
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jwYfwTYo,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-22T21:00:37.729+0000)
The thing is against those champs you have an opportunity to play around those things even if it means getting zoned off a bit. Jhin will eventually have to use his 4th shot to get cs so when he does then you are no longer zoned. You can win early against talon if you pick the right champ or get a tank. With Zoe you just have to play more passively instead of aggressive. When I’m talking about anti fun I’m talking about a Leblanc dash over a wall onto me and I instantly die because why not, or a Renekton flash stunning me and I’m dead because his stun is instant. Anti fun is when there is no actual way to play around these things properly.
Zoe does the same thing as lb tho.
And yes he has to use the 4th shot eventually. But for that entire duration (which is a very long time) you can’t contest him. You are forced out of xp range and he just gets to laugh at you.
Telephone Booth1 votesIm surprised no one has mentioned Urgot here. He seems a bit strong, which is hard to admit because I love playing as him.
