I get nerfing lethality Varus, but this nerfed crit as well...

Aimléss··5 votes·2,074 views

Riot recently lowered the damage on his Q and increased the CD by 4 seconds, but they made it so when he autos someone stacking blight stacks then hits them with Q the CD will decrease by 4 seconds(effected by CD reduction), as opposed to a lethality Varus never even touching AA range and just sniping from fog. So if he builds item 3508 as a crit adc I thought he would be able to lower the CD by 5 or 6 if he were to hit a blight stacked target, essentially lowering the CD of his Q (From what it originally was), but only for those that got in AA range, (AKA crit Varus), but that is not the case. When you get cdr the 4 second CD reduction doesn't increase to 5 or something, it decreases to 3.6-3.2 or w.e. So what I was thinking was a smart buff to crit Varus and a nerf to lethality Varus just actually made both worse, but lethality a bit more worse. Therefore, if crit Varus was not really that viable before, how exactly does this change, which is a decent nerf to crit Varus, make crit more viable?????

What should have been done is, the CD would still be increased by 4 seconds, but the cooldown reduction would decrease by 2,4,6 depending on the amount of blight stacks he stacked on an opponent. This would make it even harder for lethality Varus to cheat the system by AA'ing one time then using his Q, while rewarding Varus for building attack speed. At the moment if you build AS on him the problem is it also lowers the damage of his Q, which makes people reluctant to build it. However, if he could shoot Q's more often for building attack speed, that problem would be fixed and AS Varus would be a good pick, especially late game.

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Hethalean3 votes

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Therefore, if crit Varus was not really that viable before, how exactly does this change, which is a decent nerf to crit Varus,

You forget what makes things viable not viable. Is how strong they are compared to the great pics. Since Varus' Lethality build was competing with itself and Lethality just whooping Crit build making it laughable to even try crit. If Lethality is not as viable, that makes crit more viable.

Aimléss1 votes

Being viable does not make something automatically strong or balanced. Sure, if you nerf the best option the second best option will be used more, but if the second best option wasn't all that great to begin with, and you nerf the second best option (idk if they did it on purpose or what) along with the first best option(even though it was to a lesser extent) you make the second best option which was 'meh' before just flat out worse.

Speeedy1 votes

he needed a nerf he was the best adc with jhin and mf. They are making crit builds better to make it an option to go either one by the slight nerfs at a time to lethality. Personally I like the crit meta because you can play so many more champions than the current 3 to stay in the meta. I want to be able to play trist again without getting flamed.

Aimléss1 votes

Explain one change that made crit better besides the meh fervor buff. All I've seen was them making it worse indirectly. They buffed lethality causing a ff @ 20 meta. Nerfed lord Dominik's regards. Nerfed warlords. And to top it all off they haven't even changed one crit item at all. Crit was bad before lethality so why would nerfing lethality make it better somehow? More people may use it but it's still gonna be bad.

Speeedy1 votes

the buff to LW, since so many people were stacking armor early they need armor pen so leathlity became the quicker and better option. now that LW has 45% armor pen crit builds have become a lot more viable because you can get that as your 3rd or 4th item now depending on what they build.

Titanium701 votes

I dont really understand what you are trying to say... tbh...

If you hit a blight target your CD get reduced by 4 seconds. Period. This is indeed a slight Buff to the Reaver build because they increased the base CD by 4s and gave you a way to reduce by said 4s.

At 0% CDR hitting a blight-Q doesnt make a difference. At 40% CDR you have the now higher base CD-40%-4s which is less than old Base CD-40%. For short: A Buff.

Besides that: Hethalean's comment!

Nick Da Chip1 votes

I don't believe this is how it works. I'm pretty sure building cdr reduces the 4 second CD so it can't get Into lower​ digits. If so is the case it was a straight Nerf and highly unnecessary.

If I am wrong though and it does give him less of a CD by hitting blights it could be considered a buff and would make me pretty happy. That's not what it looks like from many places I have read and seen about it though.

Aimléss1 votes

Yeah the more cdr you get the lower that 4 sec reduction becomes. It is a nerf to crit and i don't see the point

Nick Da Chip1 votes

Agreed. Varus' wasn't overly strong and the overall nerfs are just silly. That what happens when a flavor of the month champ synergizes well with items that are considered to be op by the masses though.

I don't understand why they didn't go with the whole, popping blight lowers CD option. It would have been a great way to compensate the nerfs to the ad caster build.

To be fair though I haven't played varus' since the changes so I'm not sure how detrimental they were. I also only play AP varus' and probably only play around a gold or plat Elo so opinions would be nice too.

Overall it's upsetting they nerfed varus' and hopefully they give him some more compensation buffs once time passes.

Titanium701 votes

Oh wow... read it wrong - my bad.

K I thought that would be a nice gimmick and a compensation for aggressive Varus players... I was wrong...

However it's still a neutral than for each Blight-Q - and the Nerf for Q-Spam Varus was needed.

Mâiden1 votes

His Q is what mainly needed a nerf gun to it. He still can take 25% of a supports hp by landing one Q it's still pretty broke imo.

Calabok1 votes

if he's good enough to play Middle lane, he deserves nerfs.

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