Nidalee is in MUCH a better spot.. but she can still use some love

SwiftKitten88··3 votes·460 views

with 1000+ games on nidalee i can do decently enough, even with her with her current 46-47% winrate. in my elo

and in plat + she even goes up to 49%

but as a champion that is so easily countered and take a high amount of skill, can't 1v5 to save anyone's life, and has a HORRIBLE late game... i feel that she should at LEAST break 50% in plat...

AND the only reason she is even AT that win-rate is because of the new item 3102 FORCING that as a must have item.

i feel she can do with a SLIGHT buff.

yes this is slightly personal bias... and she IS in an "ok" spot if you ALREADY know how to play her.. like i do... but... there really is no point picking her up.. with other champs like Warwick can do everything she does (and more) better... while being braindead easy to play.

i am not asking for much... but if we can at return her her cougar form skills to 5 seconds... like they had been for.. 7 years.. before riot randomly increased them to 6 seconds ONE PATCH BEFORE ABSOLUTELY GUTTING HER.

i see no reason to keep these at 6 seconds.. the increase was never needed and all it even did was cut her winrate by like 1%... (which is nothing like the 8% drop the NEXT patch did)

maybe if she at least breaks 50% winrate in at least plat...

6 Comments

fuffychan1 votes

Nidalee is garbage. Lets take a balanced champion, then put 90% of her power in melee form, and she still has zero defense and zero cc. f--- riot for ruining one of my favorite champions

xReverie1 votes

A buff to the spears would be nice.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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A buff to the spears would be nice.

yeah lowering the cast time back to .125 seconds would help

i mean there are a zillion things riot could do to make her viable..

give her her reset back at lvl 1... give her traps back thier % hp damage give her kitty skills thier 5 second cooldown back. give her her 10 hp per level she lost back give her her attack speed back... (they already gave her her AA damage back) give her back her 5500 range on traps rather than 1400 (seriously that's less than her spear range...) give her VISION on trap placement back

i mean the BIGGEST buff out of all of those would be give her her resets back

the next biggest would be her traps to get % damage back then hp per lvl

at that point its really a throw up between vision on traps and kitty skills back to 5 seconds, and the cast time of spear back to .125 seconds and attack speed buff would be the smallest thing...

i dont see how they could give her her resets back without removing hunted on jungle mobs though..

Sagee Prime1 votes

They hit her with massive nerfs right before removing SOTA and changing the jungle completely.

They should give her back all her reduced base stats: HP, HP per lvl, AD, base Attackspeed

Give back her old cooldowns of 5 seconds on cougar abilities

Give back the auto attack resets

Primal surge revert the change or increase the low hp ap ratio on Nidalee(I don't care if we just have to make it a non-targeted self heal that only gives atttackspeed to nearby allies)

Give back the trap shred or make them a real threat especially since they are now limited and have no reservoir like cait

Give hunt back it's original range. It was on par with Vayne's passive ffs and now it's shorter than Javelin Toss range.

Restore some of Javelin Tosses width or increase it's speed

Restore Takedowns AD ratio, remove the rank one base damage, and not make the max damage scale with R but make the hunt bonus scale with R

Make items that actually suit her kit and play style

The only reason she's even been good in the jungle is because she hasn't had to deal with the pressure associated with laning and that didn't exactly carry over to the new jungle especially with item changes and the fact that not item is as efficient on her as they are on so many other champions.

If she gets another rework her kit needs to be given the master yi treatment where you combine both AD and AP playstyles. Primal surge is so bleh in her kit without the AD build and it makes perfect since with her kit and thematic but you've gutted that aspect

All her strengths are early mid game because the way her kit works and the act that itemization sucks for her in most cases. You have way too many holes to fill in her kit

WindLord70701 votes

she needs put back into lane. Give her back her base stats and change her cool downs like you said. They should balance her jungle by reducing (and increasing if necessary) her damage dealt to monsters either by how much her skills do or her passive or remove the passive on jungle camps all together

SpearKitty1 votes

I placed above where I finished last season playing only Nidalee in soloQ, and almost all Nidalee in flex (save one Janna game where I got Autofilled). I placed gold V and gold IV, respectively. I don't think she really NEEDS anything right now. New Athenes is better on her (esp. with the changes to jungle item mana regen coming up), and she has a plethora of items available to her in being able to build almost every (if not every) item in the game to good success in the right situations. She is NOT in a bad spot and DOES NOT need any changes or buffs. She should just be left as she is right now until changes to the game overall (new runes, item changes, etc.) warrant her being changed or buffed or nerfed.

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