Who utilizes Warmog's Heart the best?

Dreadlocks·Jan 9, 2016·9 votes·3,322 views

So i played the other day, was vs an all AD comp and so after stacking some armor i got some health to support it, and warmogs was my item of choice. I really liked being able to join team fights then run away when i got low and just regen all my HP back up when i got to the side lane to split push. Seeing as not many people chase singed ;D it wasn't a hard task.

So my question is, who utilizes the insane regen the best? I know people like mundo and voli get it, but i dont feel like they really utilize the Warmog's Heart part as well as Singed does, at least in my example/situation.

Thoughts?

Edit: I bet j4 could be pretty solid with it? Swag flag in and out? :)

69 Comments

SasogwaJan 9, 201625 votes

Soraka She was partly why it now requires at least 3k health. Health is bad on raka, but warmogs regen is insane

DreadlocksJan 9, 20161 votes

True, when ever i play soraka i try to get this, because you can sit back and spam your W while the regen is going lol.

Ariel the CruelJan 10, 20163 votes

Soraka item 3072 Nobody expects the banana.

iluvalarJan 10, 20161 votes

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Nobody expects the banana.

This doesn't work well. The sustain from the BT is ridiculously low compared to the warmog and what you want at that point is AP to multiply the best the HP you are already spending instead of trying to produce more HP.

To answer the question, yes of course Soraka , but Heimerdinger generate another 3% of his hp WHILE in combat.

HeadHonchkrowJan 10, 20162 votes

WOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSH

morris1Jan 9, 20165 votes

Agreed, though stacking health doesn't really affect Raka once you get a lot of regen from other sources item 3065 item 3060 . If you can position well late game, you can go through an entire teamfight without taking damage, thus healing others every 2 seconds without losing any net health.

LordForrestJan 10, 20161 votes

Honestly if they wanted to solve the raka issue, instead of nerfing the skills that normal builds need to survive. They should have just changed it so health cost skills (i.e. self-damage) stopped the passive. Problem solved, no more cheese builds.

IcyPepperJan 10, 20161 votes

It cuts into her burst healing a bit, but is definitely great for sustained healing.

Especially if you got one or two HP tanks on your team :c

The downside is that you need quite a bit of gold if you want to get it any sooner than late-game, and you have to buy another health item beforehand anyway, making it a planned investment. I hear people take RoA, though.

VictoryDance96Jan 9, 201614 votes

TahmKench does fantastic with multiple item 3083

DreadlocksJan 9, 20162 votes

That does sound really good actually.. lol After you shield up and run away you just regen up and join again xD. cool ty for commenting!

Pale PirateJan 9, 20161 votes

Ult passive:

PASSIVE: Tahm Kench's basic attacks and damaging abilities deal bonus magic damage. BONUS MAGIC DAMAGE: 20 (+ 4 / 6 / 8% bonus health)

If you get something like 6000 hp... 6000 * 8 /100 = 480.

So if Tahm gets 3 stacks on someone and then eats him, that's a BONUS 1920 damage, excluding the damage from his other abilities and the possible followup.

Damm.

RisenDarkKnightJan 10, 20162 votes

Not quite it's 8% of BONUS health so if you have 6000 hp that's about 4000 bonus hp. Still tons of damage but 33% less than you are suggesting. Also 5 warmogs would get you 4000 bonus hp so I don't think 6000 bonus hp is achievable on tahm (it is on Sion).

Ironclad DragonJan 9, 20166 votes

Garen. Really, any durable who needs to get in and out and be ready for the next fight.

Spaceman5pffJan 9, 20166 votes

Yeah between warmog heart and his passive garen rly only needs his base for shopping

kaltenashesJan 9, 20165 votes

i hate to share this, but once as teemo vs garen, garen turret dived my three times with just a doran shield he only went to fountain when i finally got a gank around lvl 8 or 9 and he died (about time XD)

Spaceman5pffJan 9, 201616 votes

I can understand it being hard to admit you played Teemo on rift

High5Jan 9, 20161 votes

Well said.

WookieJesuzJan 9, 20166 votes

DrMundo item 3083 item 1306

UB3R 1337 H4XJan 9, 20165 votes

You forgot the item 3065 .

MelledoneusJan 10, 20163 votes

He forgot to get the warmog boots.

HayRossJan 10, 20165 votes

Garen Stay out of the fight for 8 seconds and you're healing faster than the respawn pad

i am sparttaJan 10, 20161 votes

really?

BlitzidiousJan 10, 20161 votes

Yeah, it's fucking dirty. I love it.

AL000Jan 10, 20162 votes

9/6/4 seconds at level 6/11/16

thats why you dont need warmog...

HayRossJan 10, 20161 votes

Until you hit level 16, your passive heals you for about item 1006 . Warmog's becomes much less useful after level 16, but it's still a good item

AL000Jan 11, 20161 votes

not really... its not efficient slot item for garen ( and almost everyone)... there is another better item than warmog for garen...

except arma...

HayRossJan 11, 20161 votes

Garen scales better with health than armor now with Courage giving you flat armor/wizard resist instead of scaling with your armor/wizard resist. Your W allows you to stack a large amount of health with little problem

MasterSomethingJan 9, 20164 votes

Sion can abuse it early on because of his health stacking, allowing him to really tank fights that go on for a while.

DreadlocksJan 9, 20161 votes

Yeah but i'm talking specifically about the 3000HP warmogs heart passive, which gives insane regen when out of combat for 8 seconds. Not so much soaking up a shit ton of a dmg in a team fight.

MasterSomethingJan 9, 20162 votes

When you are really low, you can back out of the fight, wait for the regen to kick in for a few seconds, then ult right back in at near full health due to the Warmog's passive.

DreadlocksJan 9, 20161 votes

I suppose that could work, but dont you generally initiate with your ult?

MasterSomethingJan 9, 20162 votes

You could initiate, but it's generally better to use it close up and interrupt any channels that are devastating your team. If you initiated, your team HAS to have a good followup, otherwise you will die. You can lock them down for two more seconds, but the proximity of you and your team has to be taken in consideration when ulting.

KyrrionJan 9, 20163 votes

Soraka (at least in ARAM)

Slamurai JackJan 9, 20163 votes

Champions who can realistically soak a ton of damage and still get out safely. Mundo is probably the best at using it but champions like Sejuani, Sion, and Volibear can be pretty good with it. While Singed is probably good with it like you mentioned, he has so many other items that he likes way better that it isn't probably worth it.

Z StatisticJan 9, 20161 votes

Basically. My friend put it best: "it's good for mexican standoffs." It's entire purpose is to make it really easy to sustain after taking poke. That makes it really good on champions that have sustain already and mobiity to control how much poke they take.

kaltenashesJan 9, 20161 votes

when i play sion, i dont get out of fights, i cant, i get kitted,cced... so i go an all-in ~~yolo~~ yolt style, if i die i take someone with me, or a turret with me

Inting PillowJan 9, 20163 votes

Garen and singed

Dominick DestineJan 9, 20163 votes

Soraka

MisterHealYoGirlJan 9, 20162 votes

I play a lot of ARAM, so any tank is great with it for me. Soraka is another notable abuse case, since Spirit Visage is already core.

L0ve Is BlueJan 9, 20162 votes

DrMundo

StoryDuckJan 9, 20162 votes

TahmKench - Many say he is OP for a reason and building this on him is kind of cruel to the enemy.

Fat Bastard GODJan 9, 20161 votes

GAREN

Garen's passive makes his health regeneration absolutely insane with the Warmogs Heart passive. Garen usually builds Black Cleaver into tank as well.

Thank to Garen's speed and natural tankiness, Warmongs synergizes great with his passive. Black Cleaver, Spirit Visage, and Warmogs on Garen makes him EXTREMELY difficult to kill. Happy not dying.

DreadlocksJan 9, 20162 votes

I always thought it was "overkill" on garen, but i suppose he could abuse it fairly well. I almost wish Warmogs CD wasn't so long.. Garen's passive at least scales with level and goes all the way down to 4 seconds at lvl 16.

DaxterrJan 11, 20161 votes

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I always thought it was "overkill" on garen, but i suppose he could abuse it fairly well. I almost wish Warmogs CD wasn't so long.. Garen's passive at least scales with level and goes all the way down to 4 seconds at lvl 16.

I agree, the lvl 16 garen healing is so ridiculous warmogs seems kind of pointless on him after that. Spirit visage and his passive is all the healing you could ever want.

WolfBVJan 10, 20161 votes

Mundy can utilize it decently.

Painted CeltJan 10, 20161 votes

Here is a chart of the top Warmog's users. It shows how frequently they build it and what their winrate is with a completed Warmog's Armor.

http://i.imgur.com/qTVPq2Z.jpg

The top 5 users by build frequency are DrMundo Garen Volibear LeeSin TahmKench .

AL000Jan 10, 20161 votes

its bad... they buy warmog as last item when they are winning...

Sire HippingtonJan 10, 20161 votes

well, the 3000health mark makes it a poor items to get early, especially for champs like lee that won't built to much health early on. And since most games are decided befor the 3ed no-boots item these days, that means warmongs mostlikely is picked up when thr game is alreaddy prettymuch over.