Do any other Jungle Mains just HATE doing Krugs?

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After the first B maybe.. 2nd, you can kill them easily :P just focus the small ones first unless u are smiting it.

Oh, I don't have a problem clearing them XD after the first clear.

Sejuani breaks literally everything you say here. She has no problems with them on first clear but struggles on subsequent clears pre Cinder and she does focus the large Raptor even in her first clear without smite.

Both of these stem from the way her E/Passive damage work. E on clear one deals enough damage that her proc puts the large Raptor to one AA. It does not do the on subsequent clears. It actually takes her longer to kill a small Raptor on the first clear than it does to kill the large one.

Basically what I'm saying is that this rule doesn't apply to every jungler. In the case of extreme single target burst damage like Sejuani, Nunu or Elise it's better to focus the large Raptor since you can kill any Raptor as quick as the others, so you may as well kill the large one since it does more damage.

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Play this man. If enemy jungler is weak early,( and I mean trash level 2 in jungle, like ) go steal his blue. Taken? Disconnect. Or play someone like and just walk over to Rift scuttler on other side of the map because it just takes that long to clear with kiting and using W.

Oh man... speaking of the rift scuttler... doing that crap with is fricken grating. Most players will let Kindred have it. But I had an enemy jungler just sit there at his jungles entrance watching me just chip away at that stupid thing.

[ALL] Enemy Jungler: Er... need some help kindred? [ALL] Me: YOU WAIT RIGHT THERE! I'LL GET TO YOU SOON! DX [ALL] Enemy Jungler: D: he runs away [ALL] Me: WAIT NO COME BACK! DANG IT DIE FASTER YOU STUPID BUG!

It gives nothing for XP, but it gives a decent amount of gold at least....

Before rengar got hit with nerfs you could actually GAIN hp from doing raptors by using how heal and fero heal worked out.

I think the two of you just perfectly summed up the design goals of Krugs, as stated in Preseason 2017. So uh, working as intended?

Or Morde top on red side. Unfavorable trade? Disappear into the Jungle to return at full HP

howww, it's so frustrating. You only ever get to see your passive come to effect for the first big one, then all the rest have just enough health to make that attack speed absolutely meaningless

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It WAS good until they made it so you couldn't hit instant 3 with it to justify taking the time to clear it.

The ability to hit lvl 3 before top lane hit lvl 2 with red buff was fucking bullshit and deserved to get removed.

I get what you mean. In terms of time it takes longer because not all monsters are out at once. Similar to how scuttle is not really worth it sometimes because it takes so long to kill. But at that point where you say you can kill all raptors so fast and not krugs...Why are you still doing raptors?! Shouldn't you be taking dragon, baron, split pushing, or grouping with team for teamfights and objectives?!